Oh, it’s only my crazy mom again. No big deal.
KAILYN
Kail is now home from Texas and tells her friend, Gigi, that she’s thinking of moving there.
When Kailyn goes to Jo’s house the next day, she finds out that her mother, Suzi, stopped by, which makes Kail flip a nutty. She doesn’t want her mom seeing Isaac, which Jo doesn’t agree with. He thinks Suzi should be allowed to see Isaac.
Since Suzi has Kail’s number blocked, Kail uses her friend, Mark’s, phone to call her…Suzi just keeps hanging up on Kail, however. Suzi calls her back and is all, “I don’t have to ask for permission! He’s my grandson!” Then she just hangs up again.
With all this mama drama, Kail decides to bring up the subject to Jo. He thinks they should patch up their differences, and she drops the bombshell that she’s thinking of moving to Texas. Understandably, Jo doesn’t think this is a great idea.
JENELLE
Jenelle left Josh because they haven’t been getting along. Big shocker there. Jenelle ends up moving in with her friend Amber. The two of them talk about getting a larger place together, where Amber’s son and Jace can share a room.
Babsy approves.
Jenelle misses class to look for a house with Amber. She decides to “un-enroll” altogether.
When Jenelle brings it up with Babs, Babs jumps across the porch and wrings Jenelle’s neck. Well, not really, but in my imagination she did. She just told her it wasn’t a good idea and she still has to pay those loans back, etc. Babs tells Jenelle to not give up her education.
LEAH
I will reiterate: Leah is really bad at recreating conversations. I seriously have no idea what she’s talking to Jeremy about. She’s trying to tell him her decision (about whether or not she’ll give Corey another chance), and it sounds like she isn’t.
THEN! there’s an awkward conversation between Corey and his friend Austin. Austin looks like he would rather be anywhere but sitting in front of Corey with an MTV camera crew in front of him.
After all these confusing conversations, it appears that she is staying with Jeremy (which we already knew, of course, but I’m pretending this is the first time I heard this news).
Jenelle isn’t the only one missing class to look at houses. Miss Leah does the same thing. I sense a recurring theme in this episode.
Note to Leah: Stop playing with your hair! Sheesh! It’s almost distracting. Okay, it’s very distracting. Or maybe I’m just in a mood today.
When Leah talks to Jeremy later, he says he was thinking about them living together. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was already pregnant at this point.
CHELSEA
Chelsea mentions Adam the first damn sentence of every single episode. Do they put her up to that? Does MTV say, “Okay, now your only story line is Adam, so talk about how you haven’t talked to him. Then take a GED test or something, and maybe primp in the bathroom after that.” I’m embarrassed for her.
To kill time, we watch Chelsea chase her dog around for 10 minutes, until he disappears. Cue the dramatic music. It turns out her dog was attacked by a neighbor dog, which is really sad. The dog died. WHAT THE HELL, MTV??? I kind of want to stop watching this show now. I mean, come on! Go back to the Adam drama.
I can’t even talk about Chelsea’s segment anymore.
All you need to know is that she passed her practice test. Just barely though.
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Whoever posted last week that the dog was only hurt but survived, not cool. That was the saddest damn thing to hear her phone call to Randalicious. Does anyone know what happened to the husky?
Great news! Kieffah’s coming back!
Watching Jace leave with Babs and Mike and leaving Jenelle to her 10,000th new house was really weird to see, even though Jenelle has never really acted like a parent. Babs just needs to get full custody and be done with it.
Frankie, I salute you. You went out in a blaze of glory, in the jaws of a Husky on reality TV. You left this world with some fond memories and a bloody collar. God’s speed little warrior, gods speed.
Babs wouldn’t need to waste money getting full custody BC jenelles never going to actually try to get her son back there’s no point
I love dogs, and have a very spoiled dog who I rescued over 10 years ago, but this part of the show made me crazy: She called the cops and the cop told her that if her dog had been on a leash, it would still be alive, and this made Chelsea feel kinda bad.
Really?? Kinda bad? The policeman was right, it’s her damn fault her dog died. Sorry about your owner Frankie!!
Ive been lied to! You all told me Frankie didn’t die!
that was the saddest thing ever holy cow. Ps Steve and Melinda can you figure out the truth about Frankie, teenmomtalk posted this ridiculous article about if, but I can’t understand anything that heather chick writes, and I want to know the story
I have absolutely no idea what Heather is talking about in that article.
So glad I wasn’t the only one confused by that article. Her grammar is appalling.
Hmmm I wonder who thumbed down all the comments about Heather? I guess she has someone trolling other websites that talk shit about her. I guess it’s not talking shit if you’re telling the truth though. I still wonder why she continues to write blogs with her 2nd grade writing skills. I’m always appreciative for teenmomjunkies!
Lol I thought the same thing about the thumbs down. But yes, Her writing style is so confusing…
If you look further down through the post some douche went through and thumbed down every single comment on this post. That is quit ridiculous and whoever is doing it isn’t as sneaky as they think. Damn where is that guy from a previous post who knows how to look up I.P. addresses when you need em.
I wouldn’t put it past Heather herself to thumb down all the comments, she’s already proven to be pretty childish in the past. So, Heather, if you’re reading this – PROOFREAD YOUR ARTICLES. Thaaaaaanks!
i think she is trying to say that chelsea apparently lives in a townhouse complex where everyone lets their dogs run free. she knew the husky had a tendency to lash out as the owners kept the dog chained up all day. when chelsea let frankie out the husky was not outside but sometime between letting frankie out and returning inside the husky was put outside. and now chelsea is having anxiety because she thinks the viewers will blame her for what happened.
that is my translation. but who knows with heather clouse. she calls herself a grammar nazi, but can’t spell or use proper grammar. the irony.
thanks for the explanation khloe
i just watched the episode again and it looks like chelsea lives in a normal house but no one has fences. i don’t know what a townhouse complex looks like in the united states, but it’s definitely not single standing homes.
this heather clouse is nothing more than a stalker and ass kisser of a bunch of girls who got pregnant at 16. none of the girls even like her! it’s so pathetic.
i meant it’s definitely not single standing homes in canada.
She IS irresponsible and SHOULD assume blame. The police were right, she should have hadthe dog on a leash!
When do Gary and Javi come in? The sooner we meet Gary the sooner we meet Courtland. I’d hate for Jenelle to be on her fifth husband by the time Courtland gets his 15 minutes.
U never get to meet courtland because she finish filming this before she got with him
There was an article on Starcasm (I think) that said we won’t meet Gary until season four. We’re only on season two. And the person above me is right about Courtland. They wrapped filming TM2 forever ago and we’ll never meet him. They’re moving on to Teen Mom 3.
We’re actually on season 3, but they’ve already filmed the entirety of season 4, including the Dr. Drew wrap-up sessions (which was why they were all in NYC a few months ago if you keep up with any of them). I’ve read that they’ve been seen with cameras around them even after the season 4 wrap up, but I have no idea if it’s for a 5th season or if they’re just doing a “catching up” special like they had 1,000 of with Teen Mom.
It annoys me SO MUCH that they can’t churn out these episodes faster!
They have made no mention of ending Teen Mom 2. Had Amber not gone to prison I highly doubt they would have ended the original Teen Mom when they did either. So Unless Jenelle’s legal issues get to that point I think we have at least 2 more seasons ahead of us in Teen Mom 2.
And did people even care about 16 & Pregnant season 4? I don’t think Teen Mom 3 is going to be very big. Of course we love our current train wrecks that for some reason we can’t look away from but as far as a new season of girls goes, America is over it.
I also heard they were starting to film for Teen Mom 2 Season 5. I agree with DM. I believe Teen Mom only ended because of the Amber drama. I also read somewhere Maci wanted to quit filming to so Bentley could have a normal life, but from what I have read she is filming her own spin-off, so much for that.
Next week’s preview has Javi in it!
Jenelle: KNACK KNACK, IT’S YA MOTHAH!!
haha I really just cringed writing that. her voice really does make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
Kailyn: I totally understand and agree with her not wanting her mother to see Issac, but it really does put Jo in an awkward situation to potentially tell Suze that no, she can’t come in and see her grandson.
Chelsea: RIP Frankie
I had to rewind to hear Aubree talking to make myself feel better.
Leah: fast forward, dunno.
The Kail-and-Suze situation does put Jo in an awkward spot, we would hope that Kail would have told her mother straight out that she doesn’t want Suze around Isaac, but since Suze blocked Kailyn’s phone number, what the heck is Kailyn supposed to do? Jo and his family don’t have to let Suze into their home…what a mess! Suze must have ovaries the size of an elephant to think that she can block her daughter, not have anything to do with Kail, and then EXPECT to see Kail’s child without any advanced notice or permission? Almost as ballsy as Kail’s 16 and Pregnant when Suze went shopping for baby furniture, which was being paid for by Jo’s parents. Suze had the nerve to insist that Janet and Eddie purchase the “heirloom-quality” baby furniture, the most expensive by far. What a whacko!
oh my gosh I had COMPLETELY forgotten about how she acted in her 16 & Pregnant episode! that woman is some piece of work, bless her.
“Absence makes the heart grow fonder – so let me leave! *giggle, giggle*” – Suze, Kail’s 16 and Pregnant
that was terrible. along with “i will help you. but not on mondays, thursdays or saturdays.”
Poor Kail. I really felt bad for her this episode, her crazy mother won’t leave well enough alone. And she is basically stuck in that state away from her real family because she has a baby. It’s another reality of being a parent with shared custody, youre pretty much stuck.
I never use this word…but Kail’s mom is a c*nt… There’s no ‘misunderstandings’ with their relationship, her mom just doesn’t give a shit about Kail and hates her. What a shitty ass mom and example.
Suzi is basically jenelle in the future.
It certainly puts Jo in an awkward situation, but he should stop and think of WHY that is. Kail stayed with him when she was pregnant because of the problems with her mother. When she got kicked out of Jo’s, she tried to go home, and then was forced to leave again. Her mother has never shown support or been a mom to her TEENAGER, leaving her to fend for herself at such a young age. Then her daughter tries to contact her and she blocks her number. Who says she won’t get involved with Isaac and pull the exact same thing? Kail should just go to court and get an order against her for it. That way Jo and his family are no longer in that position.
U never get to meet courtland because she finish filming this before she got with him
Oh Christ at Jenelle’s comment tonight:
“It will look good in court if Jace is living with another kid, and another Mom. So two RESPONSIBLE adults in the house.”
Right, those two are the epitome of responsible. They’re both drug addicts and have been in and out of jail. Not to mention they’ve gotten into fist fights with each other. LORD.
Actually I don’t think Amber does drugs or has legal problems. She’s never gotten in a fist fight with Jenelle. Amber has her head on straight. That’s why Babs says she likes her.
I think you’re confusing Amber with Tori.
No the issue was ambers baby daddy had a criminal record and Jenelle’s probation didn’t allow her to be around him, there was a big blow out bc ambers baby daddy came around and yet at the same time Jenelle was being a big hypeocrite hanging around Kieffer too (another one with a criminal record who she’s not supposed to be around either).
Hypocrite*
That’s all true and I do remember that’s how it all went down… wasn’t disagreeing with that and no one even mentioned that stuff lol. It’s just that “oyyy” was confusing Amber with Tori is all
Leah. I had no clue what was going on but those girls and heart meltingly cute.
Kail. Jo needs to respect kails wishes. It is not up to him if suzi gets to see issac. If she shows up he can just say that she needs to take it up with kailyn first. Kail also needs to put her son first and quit talking about taking him from his dad. I think jo would have gotten custody had she tried to leave with him.
Jenelle. Just move in with your mom and be a good girl. Stop house hoping. It never sgicks.
Chelsea. Poor frankie. I hope aubree didn’t see it. While chelseas dogs should not have been runnning loose there is no excuse for a dog being violent and mean. That dog needs to be put down. The reason people thought he wasn’t goihg to die was because this was the second time the huskey attacked frankie and the first time he didn’t die. The dog is mean and the owners are irresponsible. The dog should be put down and the owners not allowed to have another pet.
Chelsea is also an irresponsible owner if she left her dog run around unattended when he has already been attacked by this dog.
The dog was chained in his own yard, so the owners aren’t at fault. Yes, it’s a scary thought it could have been Aubree who ran into the yard, but that’s all more for the reiteration that you should not take your eyes off your child or pet or bad things can happen to them.
True, but as far as the other dog’s owners go they are not responsible owners either. If they have a dog vicious enough to kill another dog it is a dangerous animal that needs to be put down before it does hurt a child. God forbid something does happen to Aubree or any other kid in that neighborhood because of that dog, the owners are absolutely to blame since they already know that dog is dangerous.
Or they knew it was dangerous, so they had it chained to a tree in their yard. If someone/something wandered into their property and got close enough to be attacked by the dog while it was chained, that dog and the owners are not at fault.
And to suggest that a dog with territorial issues need to be put down because of something they might do is absurd. Most large dogs are territorial against foreign dogs, especially if they are significantly bigger than them.
You have to keep in mind, Chelsea was also completely aware the dog was dangerous, and chose to not keep her dog on a leash. While I don’t think Chelsea was able to break up the attack – what, was she supposed to jump in the middle o a dog fight holding her toddler? – she’s still responsible for it happening in the fist place. RIP Frankie. What a cutie puppy.
The owners of the husky were being responsible by having their dog tied up. Who the hell lets their dogs out in front of their house to go potty with no fence or leash?! She is such a stupid cunt. I just really can’t with her. There are reasons for leash laws. Animals are just that – animals. If you choose to have a domestic animal then you must keep them under your control at ALL TIMES. For their safety, other dogs safety and people’s safety. It is completely 100% Chelsea’s fault that her dog is dead. If she would have put Aubree down for one second and actually grabbed the dog it would still be alive today. Poor thing was lucky it didn’t get hit by a car only to go around back and be eaten. Sickening!!!!!!! :*(
Yes she should have leashed the dog but the other dog should not exist. There should be no vicious dogs and when there is it is the owners responsiblility. Having it chained up in the yard is not responsible, training it would be responsible. The second any dog shows any sign of aggression the owner needs to make it submit. Pin it down hold its head down and show it who’s boss. Don’t scold or hit it. That won’t do anything. Aggression in an animal is not to be tolerated. What if the dog got off of its leash and attacked aubree or anyone else? What if a squirel ran into the yard and got shreaded? Chelsea shares the blame for not having her dog leashed but it is absolutly not okay for the other people to have a mean dog.
Chelsea is 100% responsible. I read that the dog was CHAINED in its own yard, and that Frankie had been attacked before by this dog. Chelsea should have learned her lesson the first time and not had him without a leash knowing there is a big dog next door. I have two German Shepherds who love children and people, but if something were to run in THEIR yard they would attack. That dog was on his property, his territory. Why should his owners lose a pet that is part of their family because of Chelsea’s laziness and stupidity? If the dog ran out, unleashed, into Chelsea’s front yard while Frankie was leashed, then the blame would be shifted. IRRESPONSIBLE. PERIOD.
You should never get physical with your dog. If you have to “pin it down” you have already lost. You have no control. My dog obeys me without ever having to get physical with him. I have had many dogs of all shapes and sizes and it was the same. I can do more by subtly grunting than some people do by screaming at their dog and hitting it. My dog listens because he wants to and knows he will be rewarded and please me. Not because he fears me.
Also eye contact and posture has so much to do with it. You can be dominant without being physical or scaring your dog!!
Oh so I guess if aubrees ball rolled into the yard and she ran to get it it would be all chelseas fault if the dog attacked her. Or for that matter if chelsea went to get the ball. Oh or if a woman is walking alone at night and she gets raped its all her fault because she shouldn’t have been walking alone at night. Hayzii I hope that works for you but your dogs know damn well that if they decide they want to bite someone or something you will do nothing about it. My dogs know that they will be held to the ground until they chill out then put in their kennels. My dogs don’t get to growl at anything. Not a person not another dog not a squirel. When I did have a neighbor that kept letting their little dog run into my yard my dogs certianly didn’t attack it. Why? Because they know I will not tolerate any type of aggression. Although I do agree that a firm voice will get you a lot further with a dog than hitting it.
Yeah you sure show your dogs to not be aggressive by being aggressive! No you teach your dogs to live in FEAR. As opposed to mine who obey because they love the rewards and love they get for doing so. I would have guessed that you also keep your dogs caged. You should not own dogs. And to compare dog obedience to rape? You are one sick fuckk dude.
As a matter of fact I am very calm when I react to them. They are held down until they stop snarling/growling and then scolded while they are led to their kennels. Which stay open at all times unless they are being punished. I hate it when people crate their dogs for no reason. My method of dealing with violence from an animal is no different than holding a childs arms to their sides when they are trying to hit and then putting them in a time out. You stop them from hurting anyone then when they stop trying to hurt people you punish them. And when a dogs disobedience is resulting in a shreaded pug it is compareable to rape. The fact that you think it is perfectly acceptable to have a dog that kills things makes you the sick one.
I feel sad for your animals. I get the same result with zero violence or physicality towards my animals. If you can get the same results with patient training and get your dogs to love and respect you rather than fear you than why wouldn’t you? Because you are sick and you probably feel powerless with people so you want to feel you have power over your animals. You have the ultimate power and you misuse it. They have no voice and can’t escape from you. If your dogs are so beaten into submission that they wouldn’t even follow their natural instincts to chase a small unknown animal that comes into their territory then that is terrible. They are animals! Not machines!
there is a huge, huge difference between dog aggression and people aggression!
Yes because they are beaten. That’s just what I said. I feel sad for any small animal or child that comes near your dogs if you allow them to be aggressive. I bet you think it is perfectly acceptable to allow children to hit as well. My dogs have never once been hit or physically hurt by me or anyone else in my home. Its certianly not fun when they are ounished but if it was then it wouldn’t be punishment now would it? You are a dangerous person. If your dogs chase a squirrel what do you do? Let them? Probably. But I guess the small animal that your dogs would tear to shreads doesn’t matter as long as you get to feel high and mighty. But you see to me it does matter. Dogs do not get to bite or grow. When my dogs do they are put in their place. Dogs are like children, they don’t get to just do whatever they want. A responasible dog owner cannot allow violence from their pet.
You should not be allowed near any animal. You are a seriously disturbed individual. I 100% agree with Hayzi. You feel powerless in your own life. Your dogs can’t even growl at a squirrel? You are a nasty and cruel person.
My dog is a full blooded doberman and he is raised to be a guard/attack dog. He wasn’t taught that way with violence either, he is just very territorial. He will bite anyone or any dog that isnt supposed to be in my yard. I live in the country too so the neighbors arent very close. He is controlled by a shock collar. He is very agressive towards other people besides my family as he should be. He protects my home and I feel very safe with him. People around here know my dog is mean and dont come to my house. Someone tried to break into our house last year and my dog ripped him open. There are other dogs around here that have tore up my fence around my pool. Knocked over my trash can around on a daily basis and drug it all over the place. I let my dog sleep outside sometimes so he can handle the dog and if he kills it oh well. There is nothing animal control will do. We lost over $1800 worth of chickens and nothing was done. We even knew which dog it was. There was nothing ever done. It is not against the law to have an attack dog. It works better than a gun in my oppinion. If there were other responsible owners then my house wouldnt get trashed because of these dogs so if my dog kills them then they have done their job. I shouldnt have to live in a world where it is ok for my shit to get tore up by a dog. Freaking animal control wont do shit about it. I talked to the owners and let them know I was going to let my dog handle it and they didnt even care but when their dog died they tried to call the police and the police put them in their place and told them they should have kept their dog up. My dog was in his yard protecting his property. As far as kids go parents better keep their kids up because we have beware of dog signs everywhere which are legalized with the county so I am protected if someone lets their kid in my yard and my dog bites them. I am a responsible dog owner My dog has never left the yard. Is never left unattended off the leash and when he is off the leash he has a shock collar on so I would suggest people keeping their children and dogs on their own property.
I feel bad for Chelsea. For whatever reasons, she has picked up dysfunctional behaviors and could clearly use therapy to work through some issues and gain a sense of self-esteem. In any case, she does make dumb decisions at times. This is the second dog she has lost. Her dogs need to be on a leash. She says most of the other owners let their dogs run around unleashed as an excuse. It doesn’t matter what other people do. Even the cop told her to put her dog on a leash especially since this was the second time her dog has been attacked by this other dog. Yet again, her father won’t blame her, though, in all honesty, if I had a daughter like her, I would probably handle with kid gloves too. I think it’s her fault, but hopefully trolls on Twitter won’t be too rough on her. She seems to need a lot of affirmation and is easily swayed by negative emotions.
Why do you think Jo would get custody of Isaac ? Does he have a job or go to school? Or does he just depend on his parents to support them both ?
If Kail leaves the state with Isaac without Jo’s permission it’s almost guaranteed she will lose custody to him. If Jo won’t agree to letting her move with Isaac Kail could try to take it to court to get permission but since she’s not moving for a job or something it’s highly unlikely (hell it’s hard to get permission even if it is for a job). Now with Javi being in the military and them being married she will be able to move Isaac out of state without Jo’s permission for Javis pcs orders out of state
Actually this is not true, she still has to go to court since Jo has half custody. If Jo does not agree she has to show how it is in the best interest of Isaac to move him out of state. She is free to move with Javi, but Isaac is not. Its a misconception that because of a PCS there is no need for court or anything like that. There have been cases where the mother remarried and was not allowed to remove the child from the state and the only two options were A) relinquish custody to the father and move with your husband or B) stay put.
The bottom line is that Chelsea allowed Frankie to run off leash. Chelsea being the self-absorbed person that she is thought it was more important to be on the cellphone than to attend to her dog. I’m not going to give Chelsea a pass. She need to take responsibilities for her actions only. Now she wants to blame the neighborhood for what happened to Frankie. Accidents do happen. Just own It. That’s part of an adult.
For Chealsea….how stupid are you? To let a dog off it’s leash then allow it to go into a yard where you MUST have known there was a dangerous animal there to KILL your dog. The worst part was you and your daughter laughing as you led your dog to death!
Sad excuse for a human being, I think you are a lousy mother!
When she let the dog out, she wasn’t aware that the other dog was out there. Yes, she should have checked but I’d say that makes get an irresponsible owner, not a lousy mother.
I could not understand why if the dog was running away did Chelsea not take aubree into the apartment or put her into the car like she did with the black dog..I was more scared aubree was too get dropped on her head! Terrible what happened to her puppy
That’s exactly what I kept thinking. Did she really think she could catch a runaway dog with only one free hand?
Amen – that was pathetic. She is such a ditz!
I think she had a lot going on in that moment… trying to get the dogs back in, worrying about getting to her test on time, talking to her mom on the phone about it. She was trying to juggle too much at once and didn’t think that it would be okay to maybe put Aubree in the car for a moment (Aubree is too young to be left unsupervised in the apartment even for 60 seconds, but an empty car would be okay). There was a LOT happening at one time for her so she couldn’t weigh out her options properly.
It sure doesn’t sound like you have children, Aubree is old enough to be left alone in her house for a couple of minutes while Chelsea gets the damn dogs. It is not possible to watch children 24/7 and that’s why people baby proof their houses. I have 2 kids almost 4 and 1 1/2, they are fine for 5 minutes when I take the dogs out to go potty or while the groceries are brought in or while I put the garbage cans back after garbage day. They are also fine playing in the playroom alone for 20 minutes while I shower or playing while I run to the basement to swap laundry. If she had put the dog on a leash to begin with, which is her responsibility as a pet owner, or just set Aubree inside with the front door open and the screen closed and grabbed the dog it wouldn’t have died.
I have a 2 year old who I literally can not leave alone for two minutes, he will always try to follow me. I don’t think its fair to assume all children are okay being left alone just because yours are. Some children are more clingy then others…
Mine can be super clingy sometimes too and sometimes that means letting them have a crying meltdown at the door while I go to the bathroom alone or while I’m outside for a few minutes letting the dogs out or letting them cry at the gate at the top of the stairs because I can’t carry them and a laundry basket at the same time. Even if they have a crying meltdown the will survive for a few minutes and honestly if they are having a meltdown about nothing or a temper tantrum because they’re told no I’m going to ignore them and not reinforce this behavior by giving them attention for it until they are done and calm down enough to talk anyways, same thing when they are crying in time out. Sometimes I need a few minutes to get stuff done around the house that I can’t have children “help” with, they will be safe and survive for a few minutes even if they cry while I’m gone.
I like to let my son help me do things
he enjoys tagging along and learning and I don’t mind things taking a little longer because he is learning to be a helper and it makes him so happy when he helps mommy. It’s not often I leave him alone for more then a minute or two before he comes looking for me. I can’t imagine what would have happened if aubree had tried to follow Chelsea if she was trying to save Frankie. That would have been disastrous… So im thinking aubree is more like my son(attached at the hip) then you’re children who are clearly more independent, in which case she did the right thing staying with her child.
They really can’t help me get the garbage cans out of the street or help me carry laundry baskets up and down stairs or help me take the dogs out (esp when it’s cold). Sometimes they get into stuff during those few minutes, I found qtips that where left out in my living room for a month straight and my youngest loves pulling clothes out of the dresser, but anything dangerous is up where they can’t reach or in the baby proof cabinets etc and I have things blocked off and my furniture and tv secured. From the show Aubree seems plenty well behaved enough to watch mommy from the door while she got the dogs instead of nearly dropping Aubree and failing to grab Frankie before he went back in the back yard and got killed. Besides the point her dogs should have been on leashes.
I have no kids but I’ve worked for a nanny for many years and have a toddler niece and nephew. In my experience it’s not until children are about 4 that you can leave them unsupervised for a few minutes. Before that age (though it does vary for some), it sometimes literally takes only 10 seconds for them to hurt themselves while unsupervised. Depends on how babyproofed the area is too. In a playroom with a gate up, sure it’s fine. To leave Aubree in the living room that goes into the kitchen wouldn’t be a great idea. Also as “JNV” said it’s about clingyness too, which Aubree clearly is. She might just run out the front door after Chelsea onto the road. So she knows her daughter best and yeah again there was still too much going on in one moment for Chelsea to think things through properly. I don’t blame her.
especially since earlier in that episode she had to get off the phone because aubree was getting into nail polish. chelsea knows her own child and knows that aubree can and will get into things.
According to my mom, when she left me downstairs at 3 years old for no more than 5-6 minutes, I had gotten into the fridge and walked out of the kitchen with an entire tub of Country Crock butter in my hair. So, I think it really depends on the child haha
I agree…when I was three my mother left me alone for five minutes and when she came back into the room I’d rubbed the entire contents of her cosmetics bag into my hair…and I can’t even take my eyes off my two year old for more than a minute at a time, even if we’re in the same room as I was tidying up the other day and turned my back on her for a second and when I looked back she’d managed to find a pen and was scribbling on the wall! So I think it depends on the child, some are fine, some are definitely not!
yupp. i agree. and aubree was only 2 in this episode. and i believe she had only recently turned 2. my mom always says people that over baby proof their house are just too lazy to watch their kids.
that does not include baby gates and other things but she said locks on toilets and cabinets are stupid and unnecessary if you are watching your child and playing with them and teaching them things like you should.
I understand she had lots going on..I have a almost 3 year old and a husband who works in the north slope of alaksa 2 weeks sometimes more so I am alone a lot with my kiddos. My 3 year old is very independent and if I need to walk outside to pull in the garbage can or take a quick shower I can leave her for a few moments. Like you say about kid proofing I 100% agree..my little girl knows what to stay out of..If I had a clingy child I would of put her in her carseat in the car..she may of been upset but she would of been safe while chelsea could grab the dog..I Danno what happened happened but all I was saying was I honestly thought aubree and chelsea were going to bite it on the pavement while she was holding her and chasing a dog
Going to* my iPad auto correct has a mind of its own lol
I was totally shocked when Jenelle was talking about breaking up with what’s-his-name and said, “I just felt lonely and wanted to have a boyfriend.” Has she ever exhibited such self-awareness? If only ALL the girls could remember that feeling momentarily lonely does not necessitate finding a new dude to bone and/or marry.
jenelle is just as unhealthy in relationships as chelsea. the difference is jenelle hops from guy to guy where chelsea is just stuck on one. if jenelle spent time with jace the feeling of loneliness would greatly subside. i don’t think chelsea is as lonely as mtv makes her out to be. she is very focused on aubree, has lots of friends who are constants in her and aubree’s lives. jenelle can’t build romantic relationships or friendships with anyone, she’s so lonely it’s actually desperate.
That whole conversation between Jenelle and her mom was anxiety-inducing. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the fight, but it never came! So eerily calm.
I just can’t anymore with Leah. She clearly was loving the attention from both Corey and Corey Jr. Dicking around and playing with Corey’s emotions. Also, telling the girls to say “I love you” to what essentially is a stranger to them (Corey Jr. I mean JUREMEEE) just sorta keeps me out. Granted I know they got married or something, but still…too soon..too soon.
Maybe I’m getting old, but I can’t STAND how Leah can’t have a conversation or form a sentence without throwing the word “like” in to it. I know many teenagers/young adults/hell full on adults throw the word “like” around, but it just irks me.
On an interesting note (probably not that interesting): I googled “Practice GED Tests”. I found some resources online and decided to take a practice “Language Arts” test. I didn’t even finish it and still got a higher grade than Chelsea (I was at work and didn’t have enough time to finish the whole thing).
*Creeps. Sorry about that.
yo girl it’s all good
I’m glad someone brought up the “I love you”. My husband and I just looked at each other like wtf?? They hadn’t been together that long, weren’t living together or anything. It was creepy.
And omg YES, the “like” all the friggin time! Drove me crazy when she was out having that conversation with Jeremy, and “like” was practically every second word. I’ve noticed it in every episode with her. And I’m young, and like, never do that
TMJ always has the best one-liners for their recap titles :p
I know this time, and most times, they are just quotes directly from the episode. But they know how to pick them lol. I laughed
I hate to say that, because I totally love Chelsea and I think she’s a sweetheart, but… she’s actually stupid. She is stupid with all her madness about Adam (this isn’t love, this isn’t a toxic bond… it’s much more than addiction… it’s a pure stupidity), with getting back to him for 94702947203947 times and letting Aubree watch him treating Chelsea like sh*t. She’s also stupid with her GED stuff. She was studying for her GED since Aubree was born and after 2 years she barely passes? Oh, sorry, she was not studying for these 2 years, she was like “I should study but Aubree distracts me”, “I should study but I can’t stop thinking about Adam”, “I should study but Megan and I are painting our nails”. I think if Randlicious stopped watching and motivating (pushing?) her for like a week, she’d drop the GED plan and decide to be just pretty.
(And yes, I think it was very irresponsible thing to do to just let her dog out like this. I have a dog, too, and I’d NEVER let her out on her own.)
Let’s face it, she’s totally bricks AND unmotivated. Why should she be motivated, when her parents go along with every whiny excuse she has for not being able to study and still continue to support her and Aubree. My favorite “reason” Chelsea had for not working harder on the GED was when she told Randy, “Dad, you don’t understand. Aubree is SOOOO cute. I can’t study because she is SOOO cute!” WTF? If I had been Randy I would have said, “Yes, she is cute. You were cute too at that age, but I still had to go off to my dental office and focus on my job – to take care of you and the family.”
But Randy is a total enabler and instead of telling Bricks that he’ll watch the kid or arrange for childcare so this girl actually makes time on her schedule to study, he believes her bull.
I know she had her part-time gig at the tanning salon, but even then, she had more than enough time to study for and get the GED done. I think the girl honestly has such an unstructured schedule (she doesn’t need to be at work or class at a certain time) that she doesn’t get ANYTHING other than immediate tasks accomplished. I’m not a Kailyn fan by any means, but she gets more accomplished in one day that Bricks probably does in a week. I really believe the statement “the busier you are, the better you are” to be true in many cases. This girl clearly has too much time on her hands!
Chelsea should never be allowed to own another dog or any other pet for that matter. What a stupid, irresponsible girl she is! What happened to her dog was 100% preventable and to place blame on anyone but herself is complete denial. The first attack should have been enough to teach her a lesson about keeping poor Frankie safely away from that Husky. As for the Husky, I disagree with him needing to be put down, it’s the dam owners that need to be put down because the dog is just reflecting the owner’s state of mind. If you can’t control your dog 100% of the time then you shouldn’t own a dog either! PERIOD!
I have stopped watching the show. Why should I when you post such right on blog.
I think everyone’s being super harsh on Chelsea. The way I see it(could be wrong of course) is that she looked out the window, the husky wasn’t out. She let the dogs out for what was supposed to be just a minute. Obviously, her dogs recall sucks, and it turned into a longer out time than anticipated. She wasn’t frantic to get Frankie inside because she thought the husky wasn’t out (explains her taking the phone call). When she realized Frankie was being attacked, nd panicked. She couldn’t just put aubree inside, because what if she got attacked while trying to save Frankie? I don’t know about you guys, but I just couldn’t walk up to a dog in a vicious state while my child is alone, its not going to end well. Husks are big dogs, and it could have done a lot of damage to her if she had tried to confront it. Unfortunately, at this point there was nothing she could do. I agree that her dogs should have been on a leash, but I can also see that is was supposed to be a quick potty session and she thought her dogs were safe because the husky wasn’t outside. On the other hand, I do not think that dog should have been outside unsupervised if it was vicious. The owners obviously knew their dog was a threat, and to not be proactive about making sure a child or dog was attacked puts them completely at fault in my mind. I can totally see a young child walking up the dog completely unaware of the dogs disposition and getting attacked. Dogs are like pools or trampolines, you have to be careful because they are attractive to kids who don’t understand the risks. At the end of the day, I think she did the right thing by not trying to save Frankie, because human life always trumps animals and if she had tried to confront the dog it would have ended badly. I know this was long, I just think its ridiculous how far people are taking this whole “Chelsea is a dog killer” mantra .RIP Frankie <3
Very well put! Some people are fully blaming the husky owners in this situation, and some are fully blaming Chelsea. It was definitely a team effort and they both made mistakes. People are putting way too much blame on Chelsea though and being harsh about it. She had to watch her dog die in front of her eyes… is that not punishment enough? It’s too late now. She learned a lesson and hopefully we can all learn something from this too. But on the internet everyone just has to kick people when they’re down…
I didn’t mean to thumbs down you! People are blaming it all on one when it was both. But for the record it would have been very easy to stop the dog from killing frankie. Headlock. Push on the windpipe. Wrap your legs around the stomach and push. Grab ahold of the jaws and hold them shut if you can. Their closing power is much stronger than their opening power. Although I do not blame her not not getting into it while she was holding aubree.
but DID Chelsea learn her lesson? does she ever?? pretty sure she just does the same things over and over and overrrrr. Ex. Adam, not studying for her GED…
Kailyn – I agree that it should be Kailyn’s decision on whether or not Suzi is allowed to spend time w/Isaac. Moving to Texas would be insanely unfair to Isaac. Jo and his family are amazing with him and it would be painful for everyone if Isaac wasn’t close by. I think it’s ridiculous that Kailyn complains about not having a support system when she had an AMAZING support system through Jo and his family (they went above and beyond for her) and she totally blew it.
Leah – just more footage of her making impulsive decisions. It creeps me out that she encourages the girls to say “I love you” to Jeremey. It’s too soon.
Jenelle – it annoys me so much how much she blames her failure in school on her personal life, when she creates ALL her own problems. Stop acting like a moron and get your shit together and finish school already! It’s called accountability Jenelle!
Chelsea – Wow! I am appalled by her lack of responsibility as a pet owner. I don’t know any townhome complex that doesn’t require you to keep your dogs on leashes, so I’d be willing to bet her complex does and good ol’ entitled Chelsea probably chooses not to follow the rules. I am so saddened that a dog had to lose her life just so Chelsea could learn a lesson. In the preview for the next episode she says she wants to move…well, I bet it’s because the townhome complex lectured her on keeping animals on leashes and since we all know Chelsea doesn’t like anyone telling her what to do (i.e. quits her job, because she argued with her boss) she’ll just move to avoid anymore confrontation. I also can’t believe MTV didn’t step in to help rescue the dog. What a shame.
Or maybe she wants to move because she doesn’t want to be reminded of her dog being killed right outside. Not making excuses for her but people are being waaaay too harsh. out was as much the other owners responsibility as Chelsea’s. They knew their dog was vicious, so did Chelsea. BOTH owners should have been watching their dogs. Chelsea behaved irresponsibly but you can tell she loves her dogs so I’m pretty sure that losing one of them right in front of her and being unable to help it is punishment enough.
i agree MTV could have stepped in to save the dog. But why would they step in to save a dog when they haven’t tried to “save” actual human lives such as Amber and Jenelle? Not taking blame away from Amber or Jenelle, just trying to give a little perspective.
I think it’s Frankie’s own fault he got attacked. What was he doing going up to a dog that already hurt him once before? Way to learn from your mistakes, Frankie.
When you own a dog that is snack-sized, the is an understanding that you have to do a little more to keep them safe is this big, crazy world than a dog who is not. Whether Chelsea was lulled into a false sense of security with her neighbors letting their dogs off leash or not, it’s a piss poor excuse. Did Frankie ever go through obedience training? Did she have basic recall skills that EVERY dog needs? Didn’t look it, from the way she darted away from Chelsea and ignored the crap out of her.
I know this was a gruesome thing for Chelsea to witness, it sounded like the husky was literally eating Frankie alive. But so help me, if she is ever filmed or photographed with her dogs being off leash after this tragedy, it will take every ounce of restraint for me to not drive cross-country to her home and personally slap her in the mouth.
I call shotgun!
Some dog breeds are just not good listeners, though. I’m not sure about Frankie’s breed, but I have a 13 year old West Highland Terrier and they are pretty notorious for being difficult to train, especially when they see a squirrel or other small vermin. It’s bred in their genes to just DART with 100% tunnel vision. My dog (Buffy) was put through a solid year of training when we first got her in 1999… but they’re called West Highland Terrors for a reason.
It definitely helps her case though when she’s the prettiest little girl ever like I tell her hahahah
I get that some breeds are stubborn, astonishingly my Dad’s border collie mix is stubborn as hell with a high prey drive (so much for being people pleasers, silly border collie) so his dog needs to feel like it’s *his* idea to go outside or come inside. My Dad stuck to his guns though and put him through two consecutive obedience courses and worked with him long after the classes were over. He never let him off-leash until he was confident that he had drilled recall into the dog’s head. The result? A dog that comes back when you call. You need to have duck liver on-hand to seal the deal, but he’ll still come running back. This enables my Dad to walk with him off-leash in the woods and areas where it is permitted because the dog is trained not to go out of sight and to come immediately when my Dad uses a clicker. While it’s always possible that some larger, nasty dog will *also* be off-leash in these areas and attack my Dad’s dog, that’s a whole other ballgame than the dog wandering into a private yard unattended and getting eaten by the dog who owns the territory.
Can anyone prove that Chelsea took the time to do this training with her dog? Even if Frankie was just a difficult breed, that’s all the MORE reason to have kept her on a short leash, literally. That she was snorting and laughing at the wild goose chase is incredibly ironic – and then to take a phone call while your snausage of a dog is tearing ass wildly around the neighborhood UNATTENDED? Gah.
Let’s be honest here, how often has Chelsea ever put in the extra effort to do something like train her dog when it comes to anything in life besides her cosmetic appearance?
I have a beagle. I know all about dogs that want to roam and are hard to train. It’s still not an excuse though. My beagle is my dad’s hunting dog, so he is obviously extensively obedience trained considering my dad has to let him off the leash in literally thousands of acres of woods and be faithful that he’ll come back, but I still think it’s obvious Chelsea had no authority over her dogs. When her dog ran away from her, she laughed and giggled and continued to chase it. In the dog’s mind Chelsea is reinforcing the behavior and is playing. A stern voice and shock training can take you and your dog a long way. Chelsea might say that shock training my dog was abuse, but I think the fact that my dog responds when called, is alive at 7 years old, and has never run away says Frankie would have rather been shock-trained than eaten alive because her owner was irresponsible. Chelsea has now lost one dog and let another one die. She is the epitome of an irresponsible dog owner, and she shouldn’t be allowed to own them. Maybe that’s harsh, but she obviously has had trouble with handling the responsibility. Loosing a dog or letting a dog get attacked every 2 years is no better than the person who can’t afford food so they let a dog starve to death every 2 years.
Dogs are like children and you need to take care of them as such. People need to understand that. I hope that she didn’t go out and adopt another one, and chose to just try and responsibly own her pug.
I am with you on all counts aside from the shock training. I don’t believe in negative reinforcement to train effectively and I stand firm on that. It’s one of those things we’ll have to agree to disagree on.
Like I said, at the end of the day my dog is alive and Chelsea has now indirectly killed 2 of hers. If you use shock training correctly, your dog will only end up being shocked about 3 or 4 times. It’s no different then using an electric fence to contain your dog in a yard. That being said, it’s like using physical punishment on your children. It’s a controversial topic and at the end of the day what works for some might not work for others. I’m just saying it worked for my dog and he is a notoriously stubborn breed to train. When you abuse the shock feature you lose it as a training method, but when used effectively to train obedience it could end up saving your dog’s life someday.
We actually did shock training with Buffy, it really does work! The lowest level is literally no more than a static shock on a doorknob, my sister and I used to actually chase each other around with it haha. It was a red collar with this huge black box on it that looked like she was wearing an electronic alcohol monitoring bracelet, quite the fashion statement for a 15 pound white dog.
I think the fact that chelsea couldn’t even put aubree in a timeout for saying shut up proves that she was never firm with her dogs. Did anyone else want to slap her? Aubree said shut up, chelsea gave her the chance to say sorry, aubree says shut up again, chelsea says time out but wait! Aubree said sorry just before she got put in time out and got out of trouble. Bam, aubree misbehaved without any punishment. That’s what I hate about half these girls. Non of them punish their kids. I don’t care if you spank, use time outs, take away toys. Do something! These kids just do whatever they want.
Chelsea doesnt even have the will to finish her GED much less take a dog to obedience school or train it herself. Bricks.
Did Chelsea have this dog before? I don’t remember seeing it. It just seems really made up, the whole story. I guess now that Adam isn’t popping in and out MTV has to come up with some drama.
Frankie’s demise was truly heartbreaking. It was disturbing when Chelsea bought Frankie in the first place (as a way to get over Adam). As a teen mom, you would think she’d recognize that puppies can be as much work as babies. Puppies need training and supervision and when would Chelsea have time to do that? It is a tough, touch lesson to learn. I do genuinely feel sorry for her and Aubree because it had to be traumatizing.
Sigh. I tried to have empathy for Chelsea and not judge, but tonight’s episode is just appalling. I may actually be too fed up to watch anymore.
Chelsea wasn’t responsible for her new puppy and it was killed. No worries, her mommy gets Chelsea a new puppy! Next, Daddy co-signs for a new house! When her father says Adam cannot stay at the new house, Chelsea has the gall to whine she is too old for rules. After all this time, she is still holding on to the fantasy of “being a family” with Adam. I am by no means a proponent of drugs, but I think Aubree might need medication along with therapy.
So many teen mom’s don’t have family support (or a nice paycheck from MTV), so it is sad to see Chelsea persist in such a state of arrested development. Moreover, her parents are serious enablers by not requiring more from her, or letting her deal with consequences (um, no more new puppies!)
Am I the only person thinking “holy crap, a recently divorced young mother of two is already moving in with a new boyfriend before the ink is even dry on the divorce papers?”
How do people date like that with children? OMG.
Does anyone think there’s any truth in the rumours today about Jenelle being pregnant? I know that the tabloids lie all the time but they printed that the news came from Courtland himself and Jenelle has been on twitter all morning but hasn’t denied it yet. I know its probably BS but the comments Jenelle has apparently made (like she thinks that another baby will help her get Jace back) sound like the delusional crap she’d come out with.
Oh. My. God.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
God Bless that unborn child. Whether she is actually pregnant or not, all of her future spawn need all the prayers they can garner.
I’m atheist and even I’m praying for that kid. Come on everyone let’s form a prayer circle!! Jeebus, take the wheel!!!!
Didnt mean to thumbs down your comment I was lol ing to hard and clicked the wrong thumb
Thanks it’s all good.
Forget the last comment, pretty sure its true…she retweeted the article and Courtland is retweeting congratulations…good lord.
courtland spoke to star magazine about it saying they are so excited. she’s only like 6 weeks along and apparently her due date is September 4.
I saw it in the Daily Mail. My god, I have no words. Other than “NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!”.
Omg she is omg omg omg I’m freaking out noooooooooo
I KNOW :/
maybe the mayans were right the world is coming to an end. they were just a month off.
Alright guys, all hope may not be lost. Jenelle Bombs is saying that she’s not pregnant, they just sold the story to make some quick money. So eventually they’ll have to fake a miscarriage. Please let this be true.
Lets all cross our fingers that this is all to earn some fast money. If not then poor Jace. And poor Babs as she’ll be the one who ends up looking after it. I literally think it could go one way or another, I actually don’t know what to believe.
I Literally want to cry…another poor baby who won’t know love and security in their life because of their parents choices. I hope she’s not pregnant, babies deserve so much more then jenlle and court land can give…
I never post on these sites, but just wanted to say that I think you all do a great job with your blog! I have to admit that I may be a little obsessed! Haha I Always look forward to your recaps and updates. I can’t wait to hear your opinion on Jenelle being pregnant again! I for one am shocked, but then shocked that I am shocked! Lol I mean I guess it is Jenelle after all, and what else is to be expected. I do hope that she is really off of drugs so that her baby is not born addicted to whatever she is on and withdrawing. But, I don’t think she is.
If she’s due Sept 4th she’s 7.5 weeks. I’m due sept 15th and 5 weeks n I missed my period 2 weeks ago so she should have know for at least a couple of weeks and was drinking on Courtys bast less than a week ago. And courty admitted her heroin use less than a month ago. Awesome. What a scum bag. Pop another one out for Barbara to raise.
I’m due September 15th too :] Congratulations!
Congrats ladies, I’m due in May
Also, I can believe (if it is true) that she only just found out. She’s proved she’s not responsible so its plausible she wouldn’t have kept track of this. I saw something like this happening as soon as she switched back to birth control pills :/
If she is willing to fake a miscarriage then she is a sicker human being than I thought. Like, that is some Dr. Phil shit right there. She is already teetering on the verge of sociopath personality disorder, and I might be convinced if she fakes a miscarriage.
JENELLE IS PREGNANT AGAIN!!
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/jenelle-evans-pregnant-with-second-child-2013161
I just love how this episode featured Jenelle moving into a new place only to show her friend moving out in the next episode preview lol.
When Jenelle’s househunting you see a tattoo on her neck.. like in a flash. Am I the only one that thought it was a penis????
Number 1 – battling it out over the dead dog is not cool whether she didn’t or did put a leash on Frankie ( which she ALWAYS should) I’m pretty damn sure she didn’t plan on the dog getting mauled to death in front of her and her daughter and what a bunch of idiots people can be to judge her for it, I am pretty sure she already feels bad enough. It’s not your dog , it’s not your life it was her mistake so get over it.
Number 2 – leah is moving quickly with Jeremy but he seems genuine, I love Corey but he seemed to play games, and if she is happy than good for her.
Number 3 – janelle is ridiculous.
Number 4 – kail is admirable. Her and Jo are very mature about co parenting, it’s nice to see