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Leah is having problems with Ali’s wheelchair, but still sends it to Corey’s house with Ali for the weekend so that he can see her use it.  Jeremy is coming with Leah to the drop off for the kids and is helping Corey get the wheelchair into his vehicle.  This is complete chaos.  It’s finally setting in to Aleeah that she’s different than Ali, and she just keeps saying that she wants her own wheelchair.  Leah tells Aleeah that she has a pink bike because she doesn’t need a wheelchair, but it really doesn’t register with her.

“I bought you a Keurig, can we PLEASE have sex?!” (Note: I would KILL for a Keurig…I put one on my wedding registry. I might die without coffee every morning, and afternoon, and at night while I’m writing up these Teen Mom 2 recaps.)

Corey and Miranda take the girls to the zoo, but since the wheelchair isn’t working, they decide to just take a stroller instead.  Aleeah and Ali get into an argument about not sharing the wheelchair, but since the wheelchair wasn’t there anyway, the argument ended pretty quickly.  It looks like everyone had a great time at the zoo, and I’m glad that Corey took that time to make memories with the girls instead of spending all of his vacation on Ali’s doctor’s appointments.

Corey drops the girls off with Leah again after the weekend at the zoo, and says that the wheelchair didn’t work, but that Ali walked for a while.  Corey and Miranda both agree that the wheelchair would’ve been nice, but that she also did a great job walking.  They talk about Aleeah acting out, but neither of them have a real concrete idea of how to work on those kinds of things, so they just settle for saying that it’s really difficult.

Leah has a tidbit that didn’t make the episode about how if little girls don’t wear their seatbelts properly, they have to go to boot camp, where they don’t get to play and have to eat food that they don’t like, but Addie still isn’t strapped into the car seat nearly tight enough and her chest clip is at her belly button.

Leah sits down with Aleeah and talk to her about her sister’s Muscular Dystrophy.  Leah addresses the wheelchair issue, and it was good to see that Aleeah had a real conversation with her mom instead of simply hearing things second hand while her parents talk around her.  I think Leah did a good job explaining the wheelchair to Aleeah, but it’s still sad that the conversation has to be had in the first place.  I just hate that Ali had Muscular Dystrophy, and you can see the impact that it’s having on everyone in that family.

Kailyn

Kailyn tells her mom a little about the history of things between her and Vee, explaining that when she was first starting to see Jo around Vee, they didn’t know what they wanted, and then once it was official, things started popping up online that made Kailyn nervous to have Vee around her son. Now, things seem to be working better and the co-parenting situation has improved tremendously since we’ve seen all of them on the show.

Kailyn tells her mom that she’s happy that she was able to have her help while Lincoln was having difficulty breastfeeding, and her mom seems pretty sincere when she says “that’s what moms are for.”  I do hope these two can figure things out, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

Kailyn has an appointment with a lactation consultant, so her mom watches Isaac for a while.  She’s questioning him about how he likes Lincoln.  Isaac also tells Suzi that Javi doesn’t care about them anymore, but even though Suzi corrects him and tells him that Javi is simply away at work, Isaac seems pretty persistent, which is sad to see.

Kailyn gets back and tells her mom that the lactation consultant just wants her to take a supplement to have her make more milk.  Suzi tells Kailyn about Isaac’s comment about Javi not liking them.  Isaac is still pretty persistent that Javi doesn’t love them anymore.  Later, Isaac has a mustache drawn on his face, and it’s pretty hilarious.  He compares mustaches with Javi.  It’s pretty clear that Isaac is confused about this whole situation, but at least he has people that are reassuring him about how much Javi cares about their family.

Suzi heads back to Pennsylvania, and admits that it was nice to have help with the kids.  Suzi says she doesn’t want any more absences from Kailyn’s life, and that she loves her and the kids.  Kailyn calls Javi and talks about how it was nice to have her mom there, but that she didn’t bring up the past because it wasn’t worth an argument.  Kailyn feels fine with everything, but just hopes that her mom doesn’t go back to drinking.

Jenelle

Jenelle is due in 6 weeks, and she and Nathan have been fighting a lot.  Barbara is worried about Nathan’s drinking.  Jenelle talks with a friend about the divorce from Courtland, and she says that he’s admitted that he was served papers, but that she doesn’t think he’ll really do much about it.

Jenelle talks about an argument between her and Nathan where Jace was sleeping in the next room, and when the argument started Jenelle called her mom to come pick up Jace to try and keep him away from the fighting.  I’m not going to condone screaming matches, but at least Jenelle had the sense to call her mom instead of put her kid in the middle of it.  Eventually things died down, and Barbara didn’t need to come after all, but Jenelle blamed the whole argument on Nathan’s drinking.

Jenelle prepares to register for her baby shower.  Nathan says “electronical” and I laughed a lot.  Barbara and Jenelle prepare the guest list, and Barbara ends up getting pissed that they registered for the really expensive stroller.  Nathan starts flipping shit on Barbara about how he’s an adult and he can handle his own things.  Eventually Barbara says that they’ll never get Jace back if Nathan keeps drinking the way he has been.  Nathan accuses Barbara of being an alcoholic, and she denies it.  Barbara ends it with saying that if he hurts her daughter that she’ll be after him.

Jenelle talks to her mom about how she’s sick of the arguing and that Nathan doesn’t handle criticism well at all.  She says to her mom that she phrases things poorly, and that it comes off as pushy with things instead of concerned or loving at all.  Barbara is simply concerned for Jenelle’s health and safety.  Jace shares a Ring Pop with everyone in the room…yay germs.

Nathan finally comes back and they talk about how Barbara flipped out.  Jenelle thinks that Barbara is jealous that Nathan spends so much time with her.  Nathan and Jenelle agree that they need to stop fighting in order to have a healthy relationship that’s best for Jace as well as their unborn child.

Chelsea

Adam gets arrested for driving with a suspended license, and Chelsea is really mad because it was supposed to be his weekend with Aubree.  Adam’s parents didn’t tell Chelsea about the situation, which is also frustrating to her.  Chelsea talks to her dad about it, and Randy basically says that he wishes Adam was in jail because he’s a danger.

Chelsea attempted to talk to Adam’s mom about things, and apparently his mom freaked out on Chelsea saying that it wasn’t really any of Chelsea’s business about what happens with Adam’s personal life, and that Chelsea should at least be able to trust his parents with Aubree.

Aubree has an attitude when she comes back from Adam’s parents’ house, and she’s throwing a pretty big fit about going to school.  Chelsea still doesn’t know how to handle Aubree’s problems, and Aubree exclaims that she doesn’t like her mom any more, and that she’s not her friend, and that she isn’t acting nice.

Chelsea picks Aubree up from preschool, and it seems like she’s in a better mood.  Chelsea goes out to eat with two friends to get some opinions on what to do about Adam’s latest arrest.  Chelsea also says that she’s going to implement the same behavior chart from preschool at her house, so that she can be consistent, regardless of what happens at Adam’s visitation times.  It’s pretty cute that Chelsea and Aubree are making their behavior chart, and Aubree is excited that the top level is pink!

 

QUICK SUMMARY:

1. Aleeah acts out because she’s not getting as much attention at Ali.

2. Kailyn attempts to repair her relationship with her mom.

3. Nathan and Barbara argue over who is an alcoholic. Nathan makes up more words: “Electronical”

4. Adadm gets arrested, and Aubree still has some an attitude.

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  1. Profile photo of Sammy
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    Gee I wonder where Isaac picked up on if you don’t see your “daddy” all the time, he abandoned you. This is why we don’t talk crap about our baby-daddies in front of the children, girlses! She did it with Jo, and now he assumed the same true for Javi. Sad.

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      Lol Isaac was probably saying the truth about Javi being at the beach. But seriously that was so sad. I bet he also said that once Jordan was out the picture. I hate how these moms always use their kids and don’t realize the damage they’re doing. Smh.

      Also Suzi didn’t stick around lol. She can’t stay away from the booze πŸ˜€

      Adams cougar will FINALLY make her appearance next week!!!!!

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        OH HELL NO!!!!!!!!! Lol Chelsea cracks me up. When she said to her friend “You look sexual” I lost it. She says such dumb and funny shit.

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        Omg I thought that was so tacky! Okay, trash tv is my fave, so I’ve been re-watching old episodes of “The Simple Life” for the nostalgia and the lolz. Nicole would always be like “that’s sexual” or “you look sexual” and Chelsea basically reminded me of that lol.

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        Oh yeah!!! I bet she totally stole it from her. It cracks me up… Dude Simple Life was hilarious. Me and my mom loved that shit…when they worked at fast food and called all the gross greasy old men hot and they would just get so freaked out lolllllllll. Oh kill me for liking that show.

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        Lol yes!!! They called everybody “gorgeous” and “sexy”. and it was kind of adorable because even though you know they were just joking around, it made people feel really special too lol. That show is a true gem.

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        “Hi gorgeous”

        90 year old man is like…………wut me?? LOL I loved that crap.

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        The Simple Life KILLED me! I laughed WAY too hard for that 1/2 hr it was on every week! I kind of miss it for that reason only! Like when Paris didn’t know what Walmart was. She said “what’s Walmart? Do they sell like, wall and stuff?”. Died.
        And, the “that’s hot!” or the sexual and and hot comments…oh..man..lol!

        And, yes, Chelsea usually has a comment or two in each episode that just CRACK me up! This was definitely one of them!

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        I have the box set of the Simple life. Best show ever!! Nicole made it though.

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        Beth..yes, Nicole did make the show! Have you seen her reality show on VH1? It called Candidly Nicole and she is STILL fucking hilarious.

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        @Lucky: Candidly Nicole is so addictive. I want her to be my best friend so badly. She’s a hoot.

    • Profile photo of Nothin Else Worse Can Happen Mom
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      It is a shame to see these moms whom are not role models and whoms baby daddy is around but they don’t take their babys to see the men whom fathered them. Myself I feel that parents are crushal to development and although sometimes myself and other parents have to support our baby by working as a full-time mom and our babys do their own thing. I am sad for these girls who cannot be a good role model for their child as I can still show Soph pictures and would let her see her other family if they did not have such a attitude and personality that I feel that it would be unhelpful. #love #support

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      I don’t know if I agree with that. Kids make that stuff up sometimes. My son is nearly 6 an did he doesn’t know where someone is and you ask him, he says they are dead. Not the right answer at all lol. Just something he makes up in his head.

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        Your son just made me lol. ‘Where’s the dog?’ Dead ‘Where’s your little friend next door?’ Dead. It is a brilliant way to end a conversation you no longer want to continue. I think your son may be a genius!

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        Yeah, if my husband is outside and I didn’t see him go outside, I’ll ask him where his dad went and he’ll look right at me and say “he’s dead.” Creepy. But funny at the same time.

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        I was watching my 6 year old niece one time and she had a little friend over whose grandmother had just passed away. She told me that “My grandma closed her eyes and went to prison.” I was so confused until they told me that she had passed away that night. It was cute, but kind of sad. πŸ˜›

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        My cousin’s kid is like this!! She’s hilariously creepy. She’ll wait until the power goes off and then scratch at her uncle’s bedroom door and when he says, “Who is it?” she says in a super creepy voice, “Satan!”

        She was 3 when this started, by the way.

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        I was watching my nephew last week who tried to tell me he kept seeing the devil in the playroom and he needed me to help.

        I know it’s just because he wanted me to hang out with him in the playroom and I said I wouldn’t until “Friendzone” was over (addicted to trash MTV shows), but he was getting impatient.

        But still it’s like… why are young kids coming up with these things???

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        MAN i love Friendzone. I told my guy friend I liked him cause of that show.

      • Profile photo of A
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        Friendzone is amazing. Because it brings you to the brink of emotion no matter what the result. Then they get rejected, it’s BRUTAL. When the feeling is mutual, it’s EXCITING! I love it lol.

        How’d it go when you told your friend?

      • Profile photo of Rae
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        I’m such an idiot but that would have scared the shit out of me. I’d put on some carebears or something and exorcise that playroom. Plus…why would the devil want to play with toddler toys? They’re not THAT fun. (<–LIES.)

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        OHHHH I’ve CRIED when they’ve been rejected. It’s so fucking painful!!! I lvoe when they show them together like months later though. It went so well! I told him like right on New years….I kinda already knew he liked me and we kissed like right as the ball dropped. We dated like 3 months we just realized we were better off as friends, no hard feelings and still good buddies. Although I do think there is still something there but that’s another story. Ugh don’t you hate it when you like someone but just know you’re not compatible and will NOT work out? It’s so dumb.

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        OMG and yes if a kid told me they saw the devil in their room I would shit myself

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        @Rae
        you are hilarious!! Maybe I should have done a care-bear exorcism just incase πŸ˜‰

        @Tyler’s Trap Baby
        Well that’s good that you didn’t get rejected when you told him! Sorry to hear it eventually didn’t work out. Those “inbetween” situations are always so difficult. Friends? More than friends? Such a struggle. Hope you’re doing okay! and yeah lol maybe I should be more concerned about the “devil” thing lol I totally was like “lol kid u ain’t foolin’ me! wait till the show is over!”.

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        GUYS GUYS GUYS I heard the creepiest stories on the Elvis Duran radio talk show a few months ago! It was creepy stories about kids from their babysitters. I can only remember two, because they were ridiculously scary.

        The first one was that the little girl and the babysitter were hanging out in the living room. The girl was drawing while the sitter watched TV. So the sitter looks over and the little girl had drawn a woman who was hanging from the rafters. The sitter, understandably a little put off, asked the kid who she was drawing and the girl looked straight at her and said, “That’s the woman who used to live here. She told me she doesn’t like you. She’s coming for you.” I would have left that fucking house and never come back EVER!

        The second one was another sitter and little girl. The sitter noticed the little girl had disappeared and went looking for her. She found her on the stairs, staring at the rafters, and making funny faces. The sitter asked her what she was doing and the girl said, “I’m copying the faces she makes.” The sitter looked at the rafters and there was no one there, so she asked the little girl who she was talking to. And she said, “The girl right there. Her braid is around her neck.” And the little girl made the faces again and the sitter realized that it was the face of someone gasping for air and that the “braid” was a rope. That story literally gave me goosebumps while I was driving to work.

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        OMG Jollyrancher…I am laughing WAY too hard at that right now! HA!! I wonder if that would work if adults did it too? I think I’m gonna try….

        πŸ™‚ Thanks for sharing that!!

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        I love that. It’s hilarious. It reminds me of those tv shows when the little kids call the cops and tell them that their parents are shooting each other when really it’s a watergun fight. Those are so funny!!!!!!

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        LOL! Last year I was doing a placement at a primary school (i think you call it kindergarten) and this little girl told me that her dad was rushed to hospital that day. I thought it was odd that she’d be in school so I suspected she was telling porkies. What really gave it away was her dad coming to pick her up from school that day! The teacher told him about what she’d said and he had no idea where she got it from. Kids are just hilarious!

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        Yeah, and kids also do tons of things just to get a reaction. Just to test out the types of responses they get with certain things that they say. I babysat a 2 year old regularly who would say “Pooh Bear (his toy) doesn’t like you,” watch you react and then say “Pooh Bear likes you” and watch you react and go back and forth sometimes. I know that’s younger than 4, but, still. Kids can pick things up from anywhere who knows where they get ideas sometimes.

    • Profile photo of trashtvismyguiltypleasure
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      I know she talks crap about Jo all the time but when did she say that Jo abandoned Isaac all the time? I don’t remember her ever saying that. I could be wrong though.

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        She was CONSTANTLY saying shit like “You’re daddy’s late. Ugh.” and “Your daddy didn’t show up.” “Was your daddy not at grandma’s all weekend with you?”

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    “Electronical” and “I don’t just need name brand stuff, I have f*ckin class” okay. There is something seriously off about this guy.

    Adams mom needs to take a seat. She has no rights to Aubree so Chelsea could end that visitation quick.

    Cory and Miranda seemed pissed in all of their scenes, hope everything is good for them.

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      Corey and Miranda always seem so awkward. I figure it’s because Miranda is pretty open about not being comfortable with filming.

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        I sense Miranda’s discomfort with the cameras has partly to do with Leah seeing the footage eventually. Everything Miranda says to or about the girls on film is open for scrutiny, especially Leah. She seems like an avoid drama kind of girl so she may chose to keep herself more aloof as to not overstep a boundary in Leah’s eyes. Avoid some Leah vague hate tweets.

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        I think she’s just uncomfortable with cameras in her face.

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        There goes her social life. God sorry I watch too much Clueless.

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      That “class” comment made me snort. It made no sense at all. He is a complete moron. No one is going to buy you two idiots $400 strollers and shit. All your friends are like 20 and you two have more money than any of them and no jobs.

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        Class comes from the way you ACT, not the materials you own. Any dumbass like Nathan can waste their money on an overpriced stroller and they will never have class. All his money didn’t stop him from driving drunk and making a fool of himself in front of the cops. No class detected!

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        I’m in the middle of applying for colleges and I read “act” as “ACT.” I think this is a wake up call for me to start getting a life, lol.

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        Nothing says class like overexposed nipples, orange skin, multiple DUIs, and words not found in a dictionary.

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        Did you see how he giggled like a school girl when he said maybe someone would buy it for them? First of all, who likes them so much that they would spend so mucj money on them? Also why is that giggle worthy? Creep.

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        And he wonders why Barb doesn’t see them as adults.

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        Pure asshole. From his head to his toes. Too bad nobody who attended their shower saw that clip BEFORE attending the shower. I would have taken back my RSVP and sent nothing. Fuck that noise.

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        I wonder what their shower turn out really was because it didn’t seem all that impressive by her pics.

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        maybe the buckwild cast

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        For real. Barb’s not perfect, of course, but man I love her. I think she is a good portion of Jenelle’s ratings. She speaks her mind and I love her boldness sometimes. I love the way shepoints out the ridiculousnes of some things such as “I’m paying for the stamps.”

        I knew that “electronical” was gonna get some laughs on here. Oh boy….

        Definitely crossing lines with registering for that stroller, and this is because I only just recently learned that its tacky or looked down upon to have a baby shower for a second child, especially with a registry and expecting gifts. I don’t necessarily agree, but it seems pretty clear to me that that is the standard, and its especially not coming across well when they do that AND make comments about someone buying it for them, AND throwing this shower themselves. So, those three things all mixed together look very “less classier” on them.

        Hey at least Jenelle finally expressed some interest in Jace’s well-being on this episode. I hope it was genuine.

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        I love Babs, she always serves it on the real.

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      Actually, grandparent visitation rights are a very real thing. If Chelsea would cut off Adam’s visitation, they could file for grandparent visitation to Aubree and would probably win. It would most likely not be as often as the “every other weekend” they have now, but they’d definitely get something. They’ve been present in Aubree’s life for a while now. Even when Adam wasn’t seeing her on a consistent basis, I remember several instances where Chelsea said Adam’s parents would babysit her or take her for the weekend. And it sounds like that’s who she spends a lot of her time with on Adam’s weekends anyway.

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        Yup you’re right and I was going to explain that in a comment but got lazy. But yeah grandparent rights do exist. They aren’t automatically given at birth like parental rights are, but they can be legally established if need be, and Adam’s parents could easily achieve that given their involvement in Aubree’s life thus far.

        We saw a taste of this on the original Teen Mom with Farrah. Derek’s mom tried to file for grandparents rights to Sophia, but she got denied. The main reason being because she could not prove she had a previously established relationship with Sophia, which is usually the main deciding factor for grandparent rights.

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        and that is Farrah’s fault

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        I’m looking forward to seeing if Sophia ill realize her mother is insane and the grow up to REALLY do her own thing – far away from Farrah. Unfortunately, someone mentioned Farrah turning into Chris Jennar and man that seems way too accurate. She thinks she’s Kim, but she’ll just vicariously be trying to achieve more through her daughter Sophia :p

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        I feel bad for Sophia…Farrah needs to fade away into irrelevance just like Katie and Nikkole need to.

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        Grandparent rights vary from state to state. In texas, they are basically non-existent. I looked up South Dakota grandparents rights online and it said something like the grandparent(s) would only get rights if it was in the best interest of the child. Well if Adams parents are hiding things from her, and Chelsea has proof, that definitely isnt in Aubree’s best interest.

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        That’s what I was thinking. The grandparents seem toxic.

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        Yeah you are actually right that it varies from state to state. But it’s common.

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        I agree his parents keeping information regarding the times that Chelsea’s daughter is there is not right. WHILE Aubree is there she should absolutely get to know & really it’s as simple as “Hey chelsea we just wanted to let you know that the rumors are true Adam is in jail, but you have nothing to worry about she is safe at home with us.” If chelsea pushed for more I might, depending on the situation, be like okay bitch it’s enough but that is her daughter and I can understand being concerned for her safety especially considering Adams history.

        I however am not sure that his parents are toxic. Maybe delusional but they care about their granddaughter if they didn’t they wouldn’t have pushed their douche son for more time. I think they are just being typical parents, they care too much to the point they don’t want to alienate their son with lectures of him fucking up. They don’t want to push him away. I’m sure they know their son is a fuck up and in hiding are quite ashamed of him. But when you have others attacking your kid no matter how fucked up most parents (not all) will stand up for their kid. And that is all I see happening.

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        Aubree ADORES her father. The girl lights up like a sparkler when she sees him. I don’t feel like anybody can even argue that at this point. Do you think she gained that adoration from Chelsea and Randy trash talking him then going to spend the weekend with him and hating it?

        She obviously enjoys the things she does with him and his family when she is with them or she wouldn’t be excited to spend time with them. From what I understand, Adam has a brother who is a very functional member of society and has had zero of the legal issues that Adam has had. Sometimes people are just losers and/or fuckups. I’ve seen way too many losers be raised by fantastic parents to point the finger at Adam’s before they get the chance to defend themselves. Chelsea has been known to tell a pretty biased, one-sided story. I KNOW ADAM IS A LOSER AND DUMBASS, but I’m just hesitant to believe Adam’s family is ruining Aubree’s life based on how excited she gets to see them. She can still miss and love Chelsea while having fun with Adam’s family. If Aubree was miserable and hated going there I could see. But Chelsea’s family isn’t perfect either. Randy raised 2 daughters to have 3 grandchildren by the time they turned 20. It’s not 3 DUIs but it’s still an eyebrow raiser on his parenting resume.

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        Aubree adores her father because he is a part time parent. Not because they do fun things. My oldest sister, my half sister, adored her dad. He is a goddamn drug addicted loser. Reminds me a lot of adam. But she loves him because he isn’t my mom and dad. It is hard to explain.

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        I imagine it’s just because she doesn’t see him every day, sorta like how kids are always excited to go see grandma and grandpa because it’s like a special treat for them, except Adam’s actually a POS but Aubree doesn’t know any better.

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        I don’t know what the laws are like in South Deekotah πŸ˜‰ so I can’t say what would happen in Chelsea’s case, but where I’m from (Arkansas) there are no grandparents rights.

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        Yeah, I don’t know about South Dakota’s grandparent rights. I know in Texas and where I live now they don’t exist. The only way that a grandparent could get rights in one of those states (can’t remember which one), is if the kid lived with the grandparents for 6+ consecutive months and a few other rules. It requires a lot and rarely happens.

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        True. But Aubree is suppose to go to Adam’s house and spend time with him. His parents don’t have an agreement with Chelsea. Not yet. Chelsea can bring this up in court, that Adam doesn’t use his visitation days, rather she ships his daughter to his parents. And, Adam’s parents were in the wrong, it matters if Adam is in jail, drives without a license, drive while drinking etc.

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        I’m sure the parents names are not in the specific sections to make it a complete agreement between them and chelsea but I thought that the agreements they came up with was that Adam could see Aubree but only at his parents house supervised by them only. He can’t be alone with her and especially cannot drive with her.

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        I think in some cases, grandparents rights are a great thing. If the grandparents are good people who respect both parents, their rules and put the safety and best interest first (and that also includes putting their best interest ahead of their own child, that is an adult) and their adult child is not able to be a parent, then I think they could be candidates for rights. However, I also hear of a lot of psychotic old people who don’t like that they’re not in charge anymore, and think that the parents should work to accommodate them. The fact that Adam’s parents tried to hide the fact that Adam was in jail during the time he was supposed to have Aubree sends up enormous red flags. They need to respect Chelsea, she has raised Aubree essentially as a single parent (even when they were together, Adam did jack) from the day she was born. I’m sure part of it is embarrassment, but being embarrassed of their shit head son is no excuse to lie to their granddaughter’s only good parent.

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      My favorite part was when she spent $70 on baby shower invitations (because OF COURSE she’s throwing her own baby shower) and then walked right out the door without even looking at Jace. PERFECT representation of the replacement Roll.

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        I think Babs was like give me some money for have gesssh!

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        Barbra was the only sensible one in that scene. Who would think that invitations were so expensive!?

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        I love that they were spending $70 on invitations, but were hoping other people would buy all of their baby supplies. Well, it’s kind of like the saying, you’ve got to spend money to make money.

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        Well, if Leah has to spend money on make up for her business, then dammit Jenelle can milk her friends for expensive baby items!

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        You’re right, Shannon, but I see two small problems. The first is do Nathan and Jenelle even really have friends? And second, if they do, I doubt they can afford electronical strollers for their own babies that they’re mass producing, much less for Jenelle’s. If for some strange reason I was friends with her, and I saw how much money she got for being an asshole on tv while I was slaving away at some shitty minimum wage job, I would be insulted that she would expect me to get something from such an expensive registry, especially for her second child.

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      Yeah when Nathan said that I was like really you have class… On what planet does he have class?!
      I bet Adam’s parents are embarrassed about Adam’s behavior. That’s not an excuse for being rude to Chelsea but I know that I’d be embarrassed if I were them. That being said Chelsea should not have said that about them that she didn’t trust them with Aubree because their son is in jail. At this point Adam’s an adult and it’s his fault that he’s in jail not there. That’s like saying they shouldn’t trust Chelsea with Aubree because they don’t want Aubree to be a teen mom.
      I agree something was off about Corey and Miranda in this episode. I couldn’t figure out what it was. In the previews it looked like Corey and Jeremy were supposed to get into it but that never happened. I wonder if it will happen next week instead.

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        First of all totally agree about Adams parents I tried explaining that also, in way too many words you did it MUCH better lol.

        Also I’m pretty sure this once again is shitty editing on mtvs behalf. If you noticed the scene where they dropped the girls off after the zoo and all of them were there, Leah and Jeremy are wearing the same outfits as next week when she’s talking about the fight and only going through lawyers. Which in that case I cannot wait to see.

        One last thing is it only me or in that picking up after zoo scene was Leah looking tore up! Super skinny and kinda idk yucky lol. Yes I’m 5.

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        “I have class” says the man wearing an adult bib

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        Adam’s parents more than likely don’t want to be featured on the show at this point, since I’m sure most everyone has a negative opinion of them now. That being said, I still would like to see things from their perspective instead of it always being from Chelsea’s/Randy’s.

        The other girls’ segments I feel like have more input from the adults in their lives; Chelsea’s seems lacking more in this area. Maybe she just doesn’t have a lot of adults she goes to for advice, though.

        Guess I’m just curious to know the people that brought Adam Lind into the world and to understand more about why he turned out the way that he did.

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        Yes we must always remember how MTV will edit things because we know that they do really edit them haha. Sometimes people have bad days and are in bad moods ya know? Not everyone can be super smiley and happy. Heck, you could tell Leah was disappointed about them not using the wheelchair they were probably prepping for one of her little shpiels (sp?) about how she “fills like if they could just see her in it they would understand…” bla bla etc. I wonder if the MTV really pushed for the segment with Leah and Aleeah because of the comments she’s been getting. Not a great time for cameras to be there, though, because I think they were distracting Aleeah from the important things that Leah was saying. Also though, all those times that Aleeah seems overlooked, I always keep in mind that we’re only seeing a snapshot, and MT V can edit out whatever they want.

        Leah hasn’t looked healthy to me for a while now.

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        Cheap shot at Adam’s parents to say “look how your kid turned out, so that means you’re bad parents and I don’t trust you with my kid.” Everyone knows that people become criminals because of their own choices, and it doesn’t always work like a cause and effect like that. Perfect point to make about how they don’t want Aubee to become a teen mom and that she can’t be trusted with Aubree. Definitely not cool of Chelsea to talk negatively about them like that. I could totally see her not handling things in a very mature and civil way with them anyway, though. Hiding behind a texting screen, texting things and being snooty and fake or something.

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      Adams parents are off their rocker if they think Chelsea doesn’t have a right to know if Adam will be at HIS visitation. It’s HIS visitation, not his parents. Also they’re clearly shitty as hell parents if they produced an Adam!

      PS, Hi, I used to post as Simone, now I finally got my account here set up and can come out of lurk-dom! Thank you Megan and Steve for figuring out the registerin g issue!

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    Nathan is somebody I would really like to punch in the throat. He is so fucking dumb it isn’t even funny. These two are fucking pathetic to watch. They are so delusional it makes me cringe.

    And Aubree…. Hell no. Even in the first season of TM2 when she was a baby I would notice how much they spoiled her. They’d go to put her down, she would scream, and they would pick her back up. Fuck that, that tantrum in her car last season was ridiculous, and I hope she gets a handle on her behavior before she is older and it is too late.

    We should all figure out a way to pitch in and buy Megan a Keurig as a wedding gift. Yes?? I’m being completely serious.

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      Make a TeenMomJunkies gofundme for a Keurig! If we all threw in a couple bucks we could get her one no problem, as a (optional) thank you for bringing this awesome site back. My weeks are always a little better because I can let out my snarkiness with people who understand.

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      And most of us won’t even expect you to have sex with us after you get your Keurig!!

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      I would definitely pitch in πŸ™‚

      Hello everyone I’m bed my names Vanessa ! I’m from Los Angeles ca I’ve been a snooper for a long long long time lol could never get my account set up until finally! All I could think of naming myself was after jenelles shorts Nathan was wearing on his video lol :0 I hope everyone is welcoming as I’m sure you guys are πŸ™‚ I feel like I know the usual posters on here because I read all the comments lol hope everyone’s having a great night!

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      Can we all pitch in to buy ‘a electonical brand name classy CRATE’ for Nathan? Let’s buy a small one and jam him in there and leave him in the hot garage all day. Then he will see how those dogs feel being crated all the damn time! I saw the dog in the crate again inside the house. Why can the dogs not be free to run in their home? It is cruel. My dog is never crated when I am home, he runs free. Why get a dog to cage it all the time? It is cruel. My dog is only crated in storms/fireworks and he puts himself in there to feel safe.
      GoFundMe CRATE THE CARROT. He gets mouthy, rude, violent, bossy, mean, drinks…gets put in crate!

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      Exactly. That car tantrum was demonic and Adam and his family didn’t have her around that time. Try to explain that away Chelsea.

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        As someone who doesn’t have kids yet, I’m so glad to hear that Linda Blair shit she pulled is not normal.

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        Yeah that was ridiculous and then she started hitting and kicking her and she hardly did anything except tell her that she didn’t get a SpongeBob toy. Let me tell you if I ever acted like that when I was little I would’ve been dead. Then she came up with the color system at the house, that tells me she doesn’t know how to discipline her daughter. That’s something for teachers to use so that the kids won’t act out. Teachers aren’t parents so they can’t really do more then that. Chelsea is her mom she should be able to get her to listen just because she’s her mom. The fact that she was screaming you’re not my friend anymore says a lot. My mom was never my friend she was my mom. When I was in trouble I shut my mouth because I didn’t want to get in more trouble. She had no trouble mouthing off like crazy. Then she told her if she got on the pink 5 times they’d do something nice. Um good behavior should just be expected it shouldn’t be something that you’re constantly being rewarded for.

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        Yeah, I love Chelsea and Aubree both, but she’s getting a little outta control. If I had EVER hit my mom, I would have got my ass tore up.

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        As a CYW her chart/ reward system is often implemented in homes as well as school settings. Positive reinforcement is better (more effective) than negative.
        My kid is ridiculously well behaved but I still use reward systems to improve areas when/if he starts slipping up.

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        Have to disagree, I thought the colour chart was a great idea and an example of actual parenting on the show! I feel bad because my Mum is a single Mum and I acted up soooo bad for her (worse than Aubree…) and it was in no way a reflection of her parenting. I do think Chelsea wants to be a friend too much, think that’s an age thing. But rewards for good behaviour, great idea, and taking away privileges for bad. My Mum had a star chart that worked in the same way (and it did work!).

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        It’s funny, until I started watching this show/seeing how some parents are today, I never would have classified myself as intending to be a “strict” parent, but that’s definitely what I intend to be (you know, in comparison). To me, kids should see serious consequences if they hit/throw things/hurt animals. If you continue to act like it’s not a big deal because they’re “little” and can’t really hurt anyone or anything, they will continue to do this until they are at a size when they really can.
        Example: my step-aunt has two kids, ages ten and seven. The ten year-old boy is big for his age (about 90-100 pounds) and nobody has taught him that he can really hurt someone if he hits. Fast forward to this summer, I was playing with the two of them in the pool, and they were absolutely wailing on me with two solid kick boards, were grabbing my neck and squeezing as hard as they could and actually held me under water for a long time and managed to really hurt my neck when they yanked my head backwards as hard as they could (bad enough that my doctor sent me in for an x-ray to make sure there wasn’t some sort of hairline fracture and over a month later, I still have bad pain and have been using a heating pad). I took them out of the pool and tried to explain to them that while playful wrestling and splashing can be okay to an extent, when they use all their strength to punch, slap and strangle, it actually can really hurt somebody and they need to listen when the adult tells them to stop immediately. And they should never, ever grab somebody’s head or neck; that’s not playing. They just laughed and said they were kids, they couldn’t hurt anyone. It’s not their fault, their parents never taught them this, but it is really out of hand. The oldest gets in trouble a lot at school for hurting other kids. Twice a little girl had to go to they doctor in the middle of the school day after “rough-housing” resulted in her head being slammed against the playground equipment.
        This is what happens when people have the attitude that Jenelle has, that boys will be boys and hitting is okay. Kids need to realize that even if they don’t really mean to, they can really hurt somebody, even a bigger person, if they come at them with all their strength. I know Aubree just threw a headband, but there just shouldn’t be any tolerance of throwing or hitting anybody, ever. And when somebody says stop, you’re hurting me, you stop. Hurting a person or an animal is never okay, I don’t care how “little” the kid is in comparison.

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      When I was a junior, a bunch of seniors in my Latin class went on spring break and they all came back with these lame ass airbrushed t-shirts that said, “I got tazed.” They paid to get tazed. Whatever. I would literally PAY MONEY to taze Nathan in the neck. Front of the neck. Where the whining comes from.

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      For sure Red. There’s bound to be way to do it. A gofundme account would be good. If someone sets one up, please make sure we all find out the link so I can donate. I mean, shit, if we all donate just a couple bucks we could totally do it!!

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      Totally, Keurig for Megan is well deserved! I’m in!

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      Ack, I meant to comment on this a long time ago to say I am 110% in on operation Keurig!

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      Seriously can’t get over how sweet you all are. The blog wouldn’t be anything without AWESOME readers like you. Your comments make my day EVERY day!

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        You deserve it for all your awesome posts and giving us a place to discuss these hot messes! It’s like we’re all friends even though we know nothing about one another. As you can tell, virtually all of us would love to chip in for a Keurig! Keep up the amazing work πŸ™‚

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    “She says to her mom that she phrases things poorly, and that it comes off as pushy with things instead of concerned or loving at all.”

    As much as I dislike Jenelle, which is a lot, this screams battered woman syndrome which is pretty sad. Jenelle really needs to learn how to love herself, to allow people that actually love HER into her life.

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      Yes Jenelle really does show signs of Battered Woman Syndrome. She blames herself for when Nathan misbehaves.
      As much as I don’t like her, I do feel for her. It must be terrible to have no self confidence.

      As for Chelsea, I kinda think of the line ‘i told you so’ when it comes to the stupid decisions that Adam makes. As if she couldn’t figure out he was a moron before she got pregnant with Aubree.

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        Seriously. Every other boyfriend, she’d join the shouting matches. With Nathan, she just lies there like a human xanax and then quietly suggests everyone stop arguing. That simply isn’t the old Jenelle we know and hate.

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        Right? It’s just kind of… sad.

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        She’s lost that untreated bipolar fire she once had. I miss Kiefah and that green hoody!

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        She’s not bipolar. She’s just…passionate.

        That, and, she likes. to. smoke. about. this. time. of. the. day!!!!

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        Like during the day and at weird times

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        Jenelle was never bipolar in the first place. She has borderline personality disorder. She is LITERALLY a text book case of it and I knew that’s what she had since season one. It’s easily confused with bipolar, and she wasn’t even diagnosed at a psychiatrist or psychologist office. She was diagnosed at that rip off fail of a rehab. That’s why her bipolar meds weren’t working and she gave up on them because she didn’t like the side effects. She isn’t bipolar so of course they didn’t work. I really wish she would go to that psychologist to get rediagnosed. It would make a world of difference.

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        I miss Kieffah too! Marijuana Kief, not heroin Kief.

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        I have had some issues with mental disorders & no cocktail of meds should keep you is this much of a haze. But it is partly Jenell’s fault for not saying to the drs how bad the fog is. Meds help you deal with ur issues not leave u so fogged up u dont know where & what the hell is going on. Plus I miss the old Jenelle, this one can be painful to watch

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        I don’t know if it’s a sign of maturity on her part that she doesn’t join in or what. Although I was glad to hear that she called Babs when she was worried about Jace. That was something I wouldn’t expect from Jenelle. I don’t think she’s as changed as she likes to say she is but she has shown that she cares more about Jace this season then she has any other season.

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        I was glad that she cared enough about Jace to not want him to hear the yelling. I think that’s a step in the right direction, but it also showed why she isn’t ready to be a parent. Instead of waking your kid up in the middle of the night and sending him off, which would also be traumatizing, they should have quit yelling and cooled down until they could talk it through. If she had custody of Jace, she couldn’t just call someone to pick him up every time she didn’t want him to hear something.

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        I can’t believe I’m defending JE, but I suspect she wasn’t actually worried about Jace waking up and hearing her crying/yelling. She was worried about Nathan being drunk and out of control, but didn’t want to admit that on camera, that her boyfriend is actually a danger to her child and she had no control over that situation at that time. From a wider perspective, she does have control, she could kick that abusive alcoholic out of her house and out of her life, but in the moment, she really wouldn’t be able to protect Jace or herself, so it probably was necessary to call Babs. Obviously traumatizing to Jace, but it would have been the lesser of the two evils compared to him being abused/waking up to see his mom abused.

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        I honestly believe that out of all of her partners, Nathan truly is dangerous. It almost lends credence that she’s too frightened/manipulated to admit to it. As well as calling Babs, if she was thinking clearly and like a real mother, she also probably should have quietly called the cops if it was really bad.

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        I couldn’t believe Jenelle almost did the right thing and called Barb, but then didn’t she say that she called back to say nevermind since he “calmed down?” Wtf is that nonsense? I hope Babsy came anyway, because that is messed up and there is no way in hell that Nathan is ever
        calm unless he’s stoned. If I was her, I would tell her there was no way in hell that she is getting Jace back as long as she’s with Nathan. The problem is, now that they have Kaisuh, they’re going to be on and off again for the rest of forever. And Jenelle doesn’t even want Jace back, so she doesn’t even give a crap.

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        I definitely think Jenelle has BPD. The attachment/relationship issues, self destructive behavior, intense mood swings, and lack self of identity have all been crystal clear for a while. Medicine can help regulate depression and mood swings, but even for bipolar, which is not embedded in your personality, you need psychotherapy if you actually want to get better. Meds only help because they put you in a better frame of mind, but if you can’t understand and accept your illness, you will just relapse once something happens. Self awareness is key in dealing with mental illness and BPD just makes that even harder to achieve.

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        Actually, I wonder if the issue with Jenelle isn’t that she’s drugged, but possibly that she’s more hyper aware of the cameras. It could be a combination of the two, but I get the feeling that she’s desperate to “prove” that she’s different now, to the point that she’s actively trying to craft her image on camera, much the way she’s been doing all along on twitter. I’m thinking back to the video that “leaked” online of Jenelle in the tub as Nathan screamed at her. I think she’s tired of being seen as an aggressor and is using the cameras more consciously. She seemed to imply she was screaming at Nathan too the night she called Babs. I think the drugged calm is a show for the cameras.

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        I 100% agree with Nathans Slingblade and others on the Borderline Personality Disorder! I have been thinking this for a LONG time about Jenelle. Sad that “Dr” Drew (or anyone watching) has never tried to step in with some Behavior Modification Therapy.

        Whatever has mellowed her out this season seems… off. Based on the Bathroom Bong it is VERY likely her calm demeanor is from being stoned, but it is not like Jenelle to Not play the victim. As mentioned by others she is defending Nathan and taking the blame herself suddenly and it does make one wonder if it is out of fear.

        Long time lurker, first time commenter! πŸ™‚

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        You raise a good point BABS COUGAR DATING APP, but I think given how impulsive Jenelle is, it would be very hard to pull that off, even with editing. Generally impulsivity can be helped by putting someone on a mood stabilizer. It calms you down so you can think before you speak/act.

        Jenelle could definitely be on methadone or suboxone. It’s better than heroin in that it’s controlled I guess, but not ideal. I also do think she may just be on a mood stabilizer. She definitely needs to be on one regardless, although it may not be the right one at the moment.

        I feel like a lot of people out there may not understand how powerful many of these psychiatric drugs can be. Moodstablizers/antidepressants may not get you high (in fact, I don’t think it matters how much you take since it has to build up in the blood over time), but having been on them since my teens, I would advise anyone to consider them as a last resort. For me the worst thing is the withdrawal.

        For one of the things I am on (the other one works much better), if I don’t take it within a few hours after I am supposed to, I will literally be sick for hours even after I finally take it. I get incredibly lethargic, nauseous, headache, and a general malaise. It also causes sexual side affects, which I am now just beginning to understand. I have taken it since was 14 so I thought the issues were normal but apparently they are probably not.
        I’ve tried to get off of it three times and failed. Now I have successfully been lowering my dose, but it’s going to take like three months if I want to completely wean off.

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        Hi, I Like My Dad! You’re name made me go “awwww :/” hahaha poor Aubree has such an idiot for a father, but she still seems to like him! I totally agree with you, I definitely think Nathan’s abusing her. It’s so sad that these are the kinds of guys she attracts.

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        I want Janet and Babs to be besties and be single together and go out and hit the clubs

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        About a year ago, maybe, Jenelle said on Twitter that she DIDN’T have bipolar disorder; that she was misdiagnosed. So she’s acknowledged it herself. I don’t remember her saying what she did have, if she admitted to having anything else.

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        A human xanax… LMAO

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      Sammy I agree. I feel for Jenelle now because she has totally screwed up by continuing this relationship with Gaythan. And, now the baby is here. It’s sad. He is TOTALLY abusing her. Rather its emotionally, mentally, physically..

      I think that’s why she’s so quiet now and doesn’t argue like she used to.

      CRATE THE CARROT!

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        It’s actually really sad. I remember saying other times that if you go back to old footage of her in the earlier days, she seemed so much more alive. Yes, she screamed like a banshee at the drop of a hat but at least she gave a shit about her life.

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      Did anyone else notice when she and Creepy Carrot were talking later and she mentioned they had to stop fighting and Creepy Carrot says “We DON’T fight.” His tone. Ugh. All of the sudden she changed to “Yeah it was just a slip up.” But at the beginning of her segment she said they had been fighting a lot. I agree. As much as I don’t like her, I feel bad for her. She seems beaten down. I was in a relationship like that for 2-3 years. It’s scary.

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    I could see all over Kail’s face she didn’t know how to respond to “that’s what moms are for.” Hopefully Suzi cleans up and sticks around, she seems to really be helpful for once.

    Chelsea handled Aubree’s meltdown better than I expected. From the previews I thought she’d for sure bust into tears when Aubree said she didn’t like her.

    Leah I swear has these jealous glances whenever Miranda is around. Maybe I’m crazy. But with the two of them side by side I can say Corey made out better on that one. I’m glad they finally addressed Aleeah’s feelings. Hopefully they can find some way to help her understand.

    Jenelle is on something. I am so convinced now even more than before. She never passes up the chance to yell at Babs. She seemed very sedated the whole episode. Like too calm. I’d be incredibly pissed off if a boyfriend yelled at my mom. Especially if that dumbass said she wouldn’t be my family anymore now that he’s there. Uggggg… I just wanted to shove his orange head in that ice cooler full of ice water and sit on the lid watching this episode. He had a “nateism” in there somewhere but my brain must’ve blocked it out now lol.

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      I can’t imagine the mindfuck it must have been for Kail. I hope Suzi has continued to stay sober and involved with Kail in a positive way.

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        She didn’t. Suzi chose the booze. Kail said so on Twitter.

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        Damn, that’s too bad.

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        That must hurt so much πŸ™

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        Man, Suzi is such fuckball for that shit! Shake her head Kail!

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        She did, huh? Knock me over with a fucking feather.

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        Shake her like a polaroid picture Kail.

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        Name candidate up for grabs “Boozie Suzi”

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        I’m actually surprised at how well Kail has turned out, considering her parents. Lol she did get pregnant at 16 and she smacks her husband… But she seems to know how to parent, when nobody showed her. She’s naturally a good Mum.

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        Trying to replace the real dad in your kid’s life doesn’t make you a good mom. I really don’t care about her good characteristics when Joe only asked for two more days of custody and she didn’t even want to give him one because she’s “losing time with my kid”. Sorry but if you don’t want your kid to have equal time with their other parent and you take it so far as not letting them have as much time as they want up to 50% you’re not a good parent. You’re selfish and putting your own interests above your child’s.

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        Oh and the whole guilting him about when he goes to his dad’s house. I can understand “I’ll miss you” but “I’m sad you’re going to daddy’s house”, no respect.

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        Oh yeah she has her faults, and she can be very manipulative. I hate it when she says shit like that. But I disagree with the up to 50% thing, a child needs one stable full time home, I think it’s massively unhealthy to split time 50/50.
        I still think she’s naturally a good Mum, she clearly has maternal instincts unlike Jenelle who has 0 naturally ability or instinct.

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        I think it’s much worse to only get to see one of your parents the majority of the time, and what Jo was asking for was like 32%. Really though if he needs so much stability Kail’s house is not where he should be. She rushes relationships/marriages, she married Javi for the Airforce benefits and so “if he has to relocate for the airforce I can take Isaac with me”, so they could be moving a lot. Jo’s been in a relationship for a while now and hasn’t rushed anything (though idk what’s going on with them lately), he doesn’t seem to be moving all the time and Isaac has loving grandparents at least semi-near him. Also I think the more custody thing could be solved without interfering with the preschool since he asked for so little more, he should get more time in the summer/winter.

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      My daughter and i both cracked up over the look Kail gave suzi when she said “that’s what moms are for”. I do feel sorry for her though.

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      I can’t decide if Jenelle is on mood stabilizers, or drugs, or if she is just subdued by Nathan’s abuse and manipulation. The way he fights with Babs then giggles over her being mad because he and Jenelle are their own “family” makes me feel like he’s trying to manipulate and alienate her on purpose.

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        Jenelle must think he’s the best boyfriend ever because he’s the only guy who “just” emotionally abuses her instead of physically, has only been to jail once instead of 10+ times, and is just addicted to alcohol and not heroin too.

        The “best” of her boyfriends is still far from a model citizen. LOOK AT YOUR LIFE JENELLE.

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        Oh he beats her. Jenelle wouldn’t record their fights if they were just verbal. Jenelle loves arguing.

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        I applaud anyone that ever beat her. Also I really don’t thinK Gary did…the cunt loves to exaggerate.

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        I don’t agree that anyone deserves to receive abuse of any kind but I think what you mean is that she needs to smarten up and learn some lessons and that is true.

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        Ughhhhhhhhhhh I guess. No jk you’re right. Meh. I think maybe if I just got to punch her in the face once I’d feel better. When she seriously walked away from Jace this episode..didn’t even acknowledge him while he was playing his game I wanted to Kail shake her head. Ialways think of when she went out the door to be with Queefer too and Jace was jsut looking out the window all sadly. FUCK I HATE HER. I’m not even violent.

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        Oh she’s on something…

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        Agreed! Some sedating, heavy duty prescription stuff. You know the lighter stuff wouldn’t do a thing for her with all her neurotransmitters fried from her drug use.

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        She’s probably on Suboxone or Methadones. I’m not for sure which, but I know she said that she was a while back.

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        Well, she kind of said so to someone, in “leaked” text messages.

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        I’m thinking the same thing Nikki! I’ve seen a few people act just like her while they were taking Suboxone.

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        Amber was on Suboxone. Lots of it.

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      That really sucks. I seriously feel bad for her. I used to have a really shitty relationship with my mom, it’s still not the best, but it is nice to know I can call my mom when I need to.

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        I haven’t talked to my dad since before my wedding in 2011. It blows but he’s toxic so I just have to keep reminding myself of that when I need a “dad” moment in life.

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      Notice Nathan didn’t include his own fucking DAUGHTER in his little family rant at Babs. I guess “Emery” is kind of a hard word to add in amongst all that slurring and stuttering, though haha.

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        Just get out of my lifes

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        I can’t get out of your lifes. Because they’re at stakes, Trap. They’re at STAKES!

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        It won’t be long and all his child’s will be out of his life’s cos they are all at stake! Lucky his genuality shows through!

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        If he gets that electronical stroller all will be more classier again.

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        He can borrow Jenelle’s classier court heels and take Kaisuh for a walkses in the electronical stroller.

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        Seriously there is a separate dialect for Teen Mom

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        Stuff like not including your own daughter in your family really pisses me off. She is his daughter, so she should always be included in their life. Even if she does not live with them, she is still a part of their family.

        I also am probably sensitive tot his topic because my parents split up when I was younger and my dad had more children. I really feel for Emery and Jace in that sense.

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        I totally understand where you’re coming from. My boyfriend hasn’t talked to his father in 2.5 years because he chose spoiling his second wife and her kids over his own. Every time we talk about it he gets so sad that he doesn’t have the emotional support from his dad and that he wants nothing to do with our son. It makes me sad too because he was there for the first 3 years of our son’s life, and then decided he didn’t want anything to do with us or Brad’s sisters. It was heartbreaking for him to say, “Why doesn’t Grampy love me anymore, Mommy?” I just don’t understand how people can do that and be so cold. πŸ™

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        Nikki, that’s horrendous! I’m so sorry that your boyfriend and son do not have a father and grandfather in their lives.

        I have had issues with how my dad is always involved in my siblings lives rather than in mine. I have every right to feel the way that I do, but it still hurts.

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      I just made a comment about Jenelle now vs old yelling crazy Jenelle, and I just thought, what about Kail? Old Kailyn would be flipping out the moment Smirnoff Suzi stumbled onto her doorstep. This Kailyn just kind of meekly accepted her advice and let her be alone with her kids. Javi even sounded surprised (as he was laying on the beach in a pink bikini, drinking a tropical beverage with an umbrella) that she didn’t bring up their issues even once. I guess it’s a good thing that she’s trying to get along with her mom, vee, jo and all of her old nemeses. But I feel like she’s just taking a lot of crap and holding it in. She can’t do that forever and Javi’s head had better be far away on a beach somewhere or it’s going to get shaken off his neck.

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        Totally didn’t even think of that, you make a good point! I really hope she’s decided to make some positive changes for herself and not just to improve her image. I have a feeling she’d be a really likeable person if she changed her attitude and let loose a little.

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        hahaha you had me dying with “as he was laying on the beach in a pink bikini, drinking a tropical beverage with an umbrella.”

        Btw hi everybody, I’m a loooong time reader but I only just registered. You guys crack me up every week. I look forward to the comments even more than the show.

        I guess I could give my brief opinion on this episode although as most of you have said, it’s really the same stuff every week this season.

        Chelsea – Boring and too self-righteous as usual. While I agree Adam’s mother shouldn’t have “flipped out” (how much of that was exaggeration on Chelsea’s part though? I’m wondering how Chelsea approached the situation and what actually happened) it is not Chelsea’s place to say something like “Look at how her own son turned out” as a reason to possibly keep Aubree from them. Then we could say maybe Randy shouldn’t have Aubree because look how Chelsea turned out etc. It’s just a stupid argument – as someone else mentioned they are adults now and make their own decisions and Adam’s recent decisions DO NOT reflect on his parents, in my opinion. From the beginning of the show she was probably my favourite and I think I’m starting to dislike her more with each episode!

        Kail – Surprisingly like many of you have said I don’t hate her this season. However I do feel like she makes things unnecessarily awkward (e.g. breastfeeding in front of your ex and his girlfriend – nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public or whatever but I feel like Kail does it for the wrong reasons, i.e. make Vee uncomfortable). This week though I was surprised she would trust Smirnoff Suzie with Isaac when she really has no idea where her head is at these days since they haven’t talked in two years. It’s pretty depressing that Kail doesn’t have a stable parent in her life and I feel bad for her in that sense. However, when she did have a genuine mother figure (Janet) she took it for granted πŸ™ I don’t have much else to say about her except I feel like her and Javi don’t have good chemistry at all and it seems like they aren’t even in love…she loves his benefits I guess.

        Leah – I think Leah has been paying attention to comments that are posted LOL because suddenly she wanted to have a talk with Aleeah (spelling?) and was paying attention to her once after 4 years. I’m getting really tired of her not at all comprehending how insurance works and that Corey can’t “just call” and solve everything. Jurmy is also getting annoying chiming in about what Corey “needs” to do. That comes only from a place of spite because he can obviously tell Leah still has feelings for Corey. Jurmy’s two emotions are cattiness (against Corey) or being a daze wondering what the heck he’s got himself into because he and Leah and have no spark at all. They really need to stop trying to paint Corey as a bad father. Also…Leah really let a good one get away…Lucky Miranda! πŸ™‚

        Jenelle – Oh Jenelle. As stupid, selfish and messed up she is I can’t bring myself to hate her only because I feel so sorry for her (not saying a lot of her problems aren’t her own fault, but damn). Now she’s trapped with this weirdo and like you guys said isn’t even the old crazy Jenelle we all remember. She defends him, blames herself, and can’t seem to leave. Nathan really gives me the creeps and I worry for Jenelle and Kaiser. She just seems so lost and confused. She has no self-conception or identity beyond dating guys. It’s sad.

        Babs is my favourite character and I really wish she did have her own show…I almost want us all to petition MTV and make it happen. LOL

        I know that got a little long, sorry guys. (P.S. I feel like I know you all because I read this site so much haha).

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        There aren’t beaches anywhere near the base Javi is stationed in Texas. All that we do have down here, suck.

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      I feel bad for Kail in that aspect. You can tell she really wants her mom in her life but she’s right to keep her away from the kids when she’s not sober. Suzie should be ashamed of herself. How can she spend time with Isaac and Lincoln and then turn back to drugs. They’re so adorable I wouldn’t want to be away from them. I was surprised that Kail actually left Isaac alone with her. I wonder how Jo feels about that.
      I didn’t think Chelsea handled it that well. She acted like a total brat kicking and screaming and Chelsea just basically took it. She didn’t discipline her. She went and picked her up from school with hugs and kisses acting like it never happened. I found it funny when she was so worried about Adam’s family not disciplining her when she’s the one that lets her get away with murder. Do you remember that scene with Aubree and Adam when Aubree was acting out and then Adam actually chastised her and got her to stop acting like that.
      I think Jenelle is on something. She is way to calm this season. I don’t think she’s gotten into a huge blowout fight with anyone really. Not since the one with Nathan when he got out of jail. That’s so unlike her. It’s also hard to hate her when she acts like that.

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        Oh I don’t think Chelsea acted like a parent by any means. But seeing that preview I would’ve put money down that her reaction would’ve been busting into tears pleading with Aubree and apologizing.

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        I’m confused about Jo’s thoughts regarding Suzy because I can’t remember which episode but it was recent, that he was saying Suzy has always been nice to him and he made it sound like (but didn’t directly say) Kail has a problem with Suzy as if it was unfounded. Is he not aware of Suzy’s alcoholism? A few seasons ago didn’t he let Suzy see Isaac behind Kail’s back too? I don’t understand why her coming in and out of Isaac’s life and sobriety issues wouldn’t worry him (?)

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    Megan, I just want to say that you are impressive as all get out for putting this up so quickly! Thank you again, and I hope student teaching is going well! πŸ™‚

    I was like, absurdly excited at the idea that Jenelle actually mught be doing something right for Jace, when she said she called Barbara when Nathan was in a drunken rage. But then wait, nevermind. He’s magically not a raging lunatic anymore, so it’s all good. I was also dying when he was asking about the electronical stroller. He’s like Leah and her not well schools, trying to make himself sound more intelligent but coming across less intelligent. Him flipping out at Barbara was ridiculous but also laughable, and I did love her sassy “that’s not me” bit. Wtf was he saying about Babs being jealous? Of what, spending all day listening to mopey Jenelle complain despite her complete lack of responsibility?

    Sorry to be so rambly, it’s rather late for me!

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      I agree. I’m pretty sure Babs loves the wine but the fact that South Carolina’s supreme progenitor “DON’T TAZE ME BRO” asshat Nathan Griffith is calling HER an alcoholic is just hilarious to me.

      He flies off the handle at the littlest thing. HOW did he make it through the marines if he can’t handle criticism??

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        Maybe he is a loud moth in front of old ladies and girls like Jenelle.

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        Yea he was a complete pussy around the lawyers and the cops. He would never talk to an authority figure like that. What a coward.

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        LOL if it’s her word (I don’t drink every night) against his, I’m definitely siding with Babs. Like she said he’s never at their house, or certainly not every day and jenelle’s too wrapped up in being with him to ever go visit her son (ugh) so he’s pulling crap out of nowhere I dunno, because he thinks it makes him look better? Or he’s just a lying sack of crap. yeah let’s just go with that one. And I wish someone could’ve videoed his time in the marines… I’m sure he did and said stupid stuff then too and it would’ve been hilarious to see him actually not get away with anything.

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      I HATED how he tried to turn that around on Babs making it sound like she was jealous and how Jenelle’s foolish self starts agreeing “Yeah I think she is jealous,” “she has a problem with EVERY guy I’m with”…Yes, because your choice is poor. Poor Babs was saying she has a problem with anyone that hurts Jenelle and immediately after she’s gone Jenelle is badmouthing her mother with that scum.

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        Jenelle has been in an out of so many abusive relationships, it’s amazingly sad that she doesn’t at least see the signs. Putting his hands on her? Check. Mocking her? Check. Alienating the only person in the world who loves her? He’s trying. What does Barb have to be jealous of?! If Jenelle actually treated her nicely, I could see why she might think Barbara would miss spending time with her, but she hardly ever sees Barb anyway. It’s so sad how the only people in the world who probably truly love her and want what’s best for her are Barbara amd Jace but she doesn’t give half a crap about either of them.

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    Jenelle looks like Babs here lol

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    I, too, laughed so hard at “electronical.” Then I was sad that he yelled at Babs that he was going to have a family with Jenelle, Jace, and Kaiser. What about his daughter? As a daughter whose dad replaced me with another family, I really feel for that poor girl. Her father doesn’t care enough about her to get his shit straight and fix his mistakes. Like a video game, he just wants to hit “restart” and pretend she never existed.

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    I’ve been coming to this site for a little while now just to read all your comments because they’re hilarious… But I had to make an account just to say holy shit did anyone else realize jenelle’s friend Anna is the girl from buck wild?!

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    Can we say yikes about the preview for next weeks show?!? Maybe Corey looked annoyed during his scenes with Leah because they are arguing over the way the wheelchair is being handled. If I had to deal with Leah, I would probably stab my eyeballs with needles!!

    I don’t think Chelsea wants to admit she’s raised Aubree to be a little brat. I’m sure going back and forth between mom and dad has something to do with it, but Chelsea is terrible at disciplining Aubree. We see it every week, she acts more like a friend than a parent. Aubree is old enough to know what buttons to press and that she can get away with everything. I liked the idea of the behaviour chart though

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      I think she’s starting to realize that Aubree has half of her whiny entitlement and half of Adam’s reckless disregard for rules which is not a winning combination. I’m glad she’s trying to do something about it.

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      Aubree even said you’re not my friend anymore. I never said that to my mom at her age because my mom wasn’t my friend she was my mom. You can’t be friends with your kids until they’re older and you’re done raising them. Before then if you act like their friend they won’t take you seriously as a parent and they’ll feel even more betrayed then usual if you have to step into the parent role and discipline them. I think Chelsea watched too much Gilmore Girls and was hoping her relationship with Aubree could be like Laureli and Rory too bad that was just a tv show and this is real life… well except for the fact that they’re on a tv show…

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        And some kids feel betrayed if the parent is not a parent. I’ll give an example. One mum used to let her teen son do whatever he liked. He was drinking, coming home late, whatever he was doing, his mum was a cool mum and very understanding and even supporting. The sun goes to therapy. He starts crying and tells the doc that his mum doesn’t care about him, she doesn’t care that some stuff he’s doing can endanger him etc. He wasn’t just been a teen, he was trying to reach out to his mum somehow.
        Kids, even teens, need boundaries. They might be upset on the moment, but later they’ll be grateful.

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        I have heard similar stories and they always make me so sad. It is human nature to look for boundaries. When you start a new job, you watch your new coworkers to see if they get in trouble when they come in late, wear flip flops to work, take a long lunch, etc. You look for social cues to know what is and is not tolerated, and that’s how you model your behavior. If parents act like they don’t care about what their kid does, then their kid thinks they don’t care. It’s a real shocker.

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    I laughed my ass off at Kailyns comment of ‘underage drinking photos.’ Pretty funny coming from the girl who’s kitchen had empty alcohol bottles in the background.. When she was underage. Nice one Kail.

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      But… but… in her book she said she didn’t like drinking because of Suzie! How could she lie? She’s such a great person!
      ~Sarcasm~

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      Well, everyone makes mistakes when they’re young and Kailyn, being the benevolent overlord that she is, is willing to forgive Vee for her past behavior since she has mended her gas mask smoking, hoodrat ways.

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      Don’t forget the WEED SMOKING!

      Seriously, I still have a headache from rolling my eyes so hard at Kailyn after that comment.

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      I know it’s been discussed before but I can’t stand Kail’s hypocrisy. It was okay for Kail to take Isaac to hang out with Jordan WHILE LIVING AT JO’S HOUSE and lie about it when they were only dating five minutes. It was okay for Isaac to meet Javi and it’s okay for Javi to pick up or drop off Isaac, when she herself insisted that no significant others would be involved with that. Admit you were jealous Kail and stop pretending it has anything to do with Vee’s actions. Kail STILL seems in love with Jo to me but has settled for having a whipped guy because it also happens to be convenient, and Jo isn’t going to take her back. The only reason she “loves” Vee now is probably because her still having feelings for Jo came up between her and Javi at some point, and she wanted to “prove” she doesn’t.

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    Leah: All the adults keep TALKING about how they need to make sure Aleeah feels equal to her sister, but none of them are actually DOING it. Even when Leah sat Aleeah down to have a “special talk” it was still all about her sister. I don’t think anyone means to get distracted from actually making efforts to make sure Aleeah feels included, because the fact is that Ali DOES have more concerns and that will capture their attention but I would really like to see them make a proactive plan/effort to counteract it.

    Chelsea: I struggle with her storyline right now when it comes to Adam. She doesn’t want Adam to have visitation, and I’m usually a big advocate for equal parental rights and I think Aubree has a right to see her father. It just makes it really, REALLY, difficult for me to support that when he is off getting arrested AGAIN during the time he’s supposed to be with his child! But then I see the way Aubree ADORES her dad and how sad it would be for her to not see him. But really, he’s causing it at this point and he’s hurting her with that flaky behaviour. One minute he acts involved, one minute he doesn’t show up at all, and then sprinkle in those occasional 5 minute birthday and t-ball visits. It’s just not fair to Aubree at all. I’m so sad for her. The older she gets, the more her dad’s flaky behaviour will hurt her. How could Adam fight for visitation and then not appreciate and respect it?? I’m so annoyed.

    Kail: It’s really nice to see Suzi interact with Kail and her grandchildren. She seems so loving and easygoing sometimes. But I’m sure she will fall off the wagon again as always and I feel bad for Kail when it comes to that. She has those nice moments with her mom, then has to see the addiction grab hold and take her mom away again. Alcoholism sucks. Oh and I think Isaac was kind of saying the “Javi doesn’t care about us” thing just for a reaction since Suzi & Kail were putting so much emphasis on it. You could tell he was trying to hide a smile after like the fourth time he repeated it. But maybe he did legitimately feel that way too since he said it in the first place, so hopefully the skype call with Javi helped him to feel better.

    Jenelle: I’m not sure if MTV is trying to give her a good edit or if pregnancy has a very strange calming affect on her. There were so many times this season and last (or part a of the season, whatever) where she has remained mostly calm when confronted/surrounded by arguing. Considering she used to start screaming hysterically at the drop of a hat, and now she’s sitting there with her mom and Nathan yelling and saying “please don’t argue” in a normal tone. That’s odd. Jenelle has a lot of potential to do well and be mature but we’ve seen her do the opposite so many times and she never learns. I really hope, especially now that she has a second child, that she really is coming around for real this time. Nathan too… dear lord.

    Oh and we have a new word to add to the Nathan un-dictionary: “electronical”

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      At this point I believe it’s in Aubree’s best interest to keep her away from Adam. Her acting out will just continue to escalate. The grandparents don’t seem great either. Hiding the fact her dumbass son was arrested for driving with a suspended license is disgusting.

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        Yeah and as much as I want to think he should keep getting more chances and dads and kids should see each other even if things aren’t perfect, I have to recognize that there are extreme situations where it just can’t be. This might be one of them.

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        It’s not an easy choice, for sure. It’ll be hard because she’ll probably ask to see him at first. Same as if he went to jail I guess, which hopefully happens from that crash.

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        HE’S. STILL. FUCKING. DRIVING. AROUND!!!!!

        STOP DRIVING IN A FUCKING VEHICLE YOU DUMB FAUXHAWKED FUCK!

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        Sadly I agree. How many times does he have to get arrested before he realizes that he needs to grow the hell up for his kid. I think he loves Aubree I just don’t think he wants to grow up. I think he wants to be her dad on his terms and that’s what going to make him loose her forever. I really hope that one day he grows up and realizes what he’s got at stake. Maybe jail would be good for him to make him realize what he’s doing wrong. It sounds like he’s kicked the drinking now he just has to stop driving and he’ll be good. I just feel bad for Aubree. With Adam being the way he is and Chelsea too busy trying to be her BFF instead of her mom she’s going to really have problems growing up. I can totally see Chelsea being the cool mom in high school who tries to hang out with Aubree and her friends and takes them drinking.

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        Ummm…. The things that adumb have been in trouble for have NOTHING to do with his parenting. Y’all are just hatin!! (face palm)

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      I get so irritated because they edit the shows like Aleeah doesn’t exist at all and when she does, she’s “acting out.” Even the Cheeto Head Baby has more screen time than the poor forgotten twin!!

      As for Adam…he’s going to kill someone one day and a judge is going to take one look at his record and throw the book at him. Chelsea is the parent. She’s been the ONLY parent (aside from her own parents helping A LOT) since DAY ONE. If his parents can’t respect that and abide by HER rules, they shouldn’t have unsupervised visitation with the damn kid. Who knows what they’re all telling Aubree about her mom’s side of the family while she’s over there?

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        Ah you’re so right about Aleeah and the screentime she gets. I was thinking about that last week. Not only is she going to have to grow up with being on the backburner (and it’s already started), but she will one day look back at this show and realize that MTV didn’t even find her compelling enough for the storyline other than to occasionally emphasize that she’s forgotten about and the world revolves around Ali.

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        We’ll always have, “film about my liiifffe! Film about my life!!”

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        I love how last week they showed her chasing cats for like 30 seconds.

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        Can we make a gofundme account to get that little girl a kitten? And a groupon for therapy session for her and Adderall?

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        God that talk with Leah about the wheelchair was so fucking stupid. You could tell she didn’t understand a god damn word of it. She’s like just get me a wheelchair you cunt. I remember this kid in kindergarten broke his leg and had crutches and for SOME fucking reason I was jealous and wanted crutches too. Kids just can’t get it at that age…Leah you idiot. It was a nice try though but I think giving her more attention would be more beneficial than having adult conversations…

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        I have really good teeth. Not quite Chelsea status, but still pretty damn good and I never needed braces. All of my friends had them though, and they got to pick out little rubber bands to put on them to coordinate with holidays and sports teams and I just thought that was cooler than the cat’s pajamas. I wanted braces in the worst way. Kids want things that they see other kids have. And while it wasn’t a perfect talk, I really appreciate Leah trying. The poor girl has a lot on her plate and while it is by her own doing for the most part, I still feel for her.

        And yes, let’s get Aleeah a kitty. On the condition that we get to name it πŸ™‚

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        “Get me a wheelchair you cunt” TTB, I’m in bed reading this and trying not to seriously laugh out loud, but I’m making the bed shake while I stifle giggles and my poor hubby has to be up super early for work tomorrow! That was just so funny cos I can absolutely see Leah thinking that.
        Babs Cackle, my daughter wanted braces for the last few years too (cause all her friends had them!) and she got them put on three weeks ago (turns out she needs them too, great! $7K later…..) and she is devastated. Be careful what you wish for I tell her!
        And we should name the kitty Gracifer!

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        I know I’m gonna be the hated one in this conversation but to be honest while I definitely think Aleeah should get something to make her feel special she absolutely does not need a cat! Every time we see her In a scene with one she’s going at it aggressively, it’s always running away from her scared like hell. Maybe when she’s older and understands to be gentle maybe, in the meantime you could get the toy kind that act like real cats. Pretty sure they have a toy that poops magical poop lol

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        YES and we’ll name the cat Gracifer!

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        Kail yea she does seem aggressive with it…maybe a dog lol like a big one that she would be kinda hesitant to do that with.

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      Ya Jenelle has some pregnancy zen going on for sure lol I was just thinking about that while watching this season. yes she has had her share of temper tantrums but overall compared to other seasons the wacky pregnancy hormones seem to do the opposite for her over most women who are a mess. Well,to rephrase, calm and collected for Jenelle is obviously gonna come off different than the average person.

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    Who enjoyed the part where javi gave us a shout out during his face time!! With those lips hahaha

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      http://youtu.be/0aAUgmWhJ8c

      Just imagine Javi after that phone call with Isaac. Listening to Miley of course.

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      I felt like there were so many “eff you” moments at us in the last few episodes! Like the time Jenelle tried to raise Jace for the weekend, when she was allegedly study before the Buckwild girl came over (and Jenelle couldn’t even pronounce whatever it was that she was studying, The West Virginia gang’s newfound interest in Gracie, Chelsea taking a stab at discipline…it’s like MTV found us, read our commenta and thought “crap…they can see right through this nonsense.”

      And the day we saw the bong in Jenelle’s bathroom was like a special gift for us.

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        I totally agree. I was thinking that earlier. Everything we’ve commented on lately has been addressed this season. Its like someone comes here and reads this stuff and was like let’s give them something to really talk about.

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        Hahaha it’s so true. It’s like there is a checklist that the producers are going off of. “Hmmm let’s see…this week we’ll make sure everyone sees Chelsea attempting discipline. Everyone always talks about how violent Kailyn is and how she holds grudges, so we’ll show her being calm and forgiving. They also seem to think Leah and Jeremy won’t last, so we can put in a scene with them being in love, and I guess we can tack that scene with Gracie onto the end. And of course, we have to sedate Jenelle so we can prove that she’s changed. Good work team, now let’s start on that editing to make Corey and Miranda less likable or Leah’s going to start bitching again.”

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    Hi guys! I’ve been lurking on this site for awhile, I’ve spent hours reading all of your comments and laughing my ass off! Also, you guys have the most hilarious names! I couldn’t think of a cool one so I just used my real one. πŸ™ lol

    Anyway, I just had to comment about how stupid Nathan is! I was watching the episode, and as soon as he said “Electronical”…oh my god I FUCKING LOST IT! I laughed so hard I cried! My sister kept asking me what my problem was and I couldn’t answer her for about five minutes.

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    Here’s a way to make Gracifer feel special…put her in fucking speech therapy. The twinses are too old to talk like Elmer Fudd.

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    Glad Chelsea is trying some new strategies to parent Aubree. Never plead with a child. Their mind doesn’t care for logic. It cares for whatever they want. Even if there were ways she could have handled that rough morning better (nobody is perfect though) it was nice to see Chelsea stick to her ground and not give Aubree whatever that spongebob thing is.

    Also. Nathan is an idiot. But, honestly, that goes without saying. Tempted to make my username “Electronical Stroller.”

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      Wow Nathan really pissed me off more than usual tonight. What a fucking dumb useless piece of shit ! And the way he talked to Barbara was disgusting !!!

      I felt bad for Kail, my mum was an alcoholic also, its what eventually killed her. I still till this day feel the frustration that she chose drink over me.

      Leah’s hair really bothered me tonight.

      Chelsea good for her at least attempting to discipline Aubree.

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        Leah’s hair bothered me too!!! I also was so pissed off when during the zoo scene the girls were drinking Pepsi. Cmon especially a child with a muscular disorder should be fed real wholesome food.

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        Even the Lunchables are better than soda. That one’s on Corey, though. It’s not like he had no choice in giving it to them, they’re children. He’s the parent and he and Leah both need to say no. Give them some apple juice or something. That stuff is still crap and sugar, but at least there aren’t as many chemicals as soda.

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        Seriously! My daughter turned 2 yesterday and she had her first taste of juice during her party cause some of our friends asked for juice for their kids. Hubbs had to go run out for some juice boxes cause we were embarrassed our house doesnt have juice. And let me tell ya the little bugger woke up this morning and asked “Momma, Juice?” ha not even 24hrs later and now she is hooked.

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        Happy birthday to your baby, Leah’s Abstinence!

        Yes, all kids discover the joys of juice and cookies and cupcakes eventually! But soda is something I would try to hold off on, especially for Ali.

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        The phrase Happy Birthday Leah’s Abstinence made me Lol

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        Thanks Babs Cackle!! πŸ™‚ I’ve been in denial the past week that the day would come lol I dont do so well with my little girl growing up….
        and YES lets all sing a hearty veeerry belated birthday to Leah’s abstinence y’all. Been so long I’d say its obsolete!

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        I have often found this to be true. Watch the way a guy treats his mother when you are dating. He will end up treating your mom that way and YOU. If he is disrespectful, nasty, sarcastic, short-tempered or rude, you are seeing your future. RUN. When I was dating, I asked ‘the guy’ what he thought of his mom. He said ‘my mom is the most amazing, kindest, strongest woman I have ever met. I can’t say enough about her’. On Sunday, I will have been married 25 years to ‘the guy’. He now talks about me with those same words. (Yes I know I am old!)

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        My husband calls his mom “crazy old bat” when she does something ridiculous but loves her more than the world. And he’s sarcastic and snarky and delightfully obnoxious with me and I never win an argument but there’s no one out there better suited for me than that dude.

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        Oh man….my fiance is a big mama’s boy. He’s sweet and respectful to her but man He’s so needy to her….yikes!!!

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        Nathan’s shirt bothered me the most

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        And his face. Can’t forget his face. (No matter how hard we try. He has this Durr-Gunter Caveman face.)

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        His gross moles also bother me…his voice…his vocabulary….his existence just bothers me.

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        Me too trap baby. If had been spandex, it would’ve looked like one of those wrestling leotards. It irritated me the entire time he was in screen. I just can’t stand either of them anyway!!

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        We’re over his face.

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        ..just dont enjoy his face.

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        I don’t enjoy his entire face or how he parents his childs

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        Nathan is a total POS and Jenelle needs to get rid of him. Sadly she thinks she needs him to be happy so she won’t. I just hope that he’ll get rid of her soon. It’s better for her.
        I felt bad for Kail also Suzie showed the potential to be a good mom. Kail hasn’t been pissing me off at all this season. I’m actually liking her. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop with her but it hasn’t yet.
        Leah’s hair is a hot mess. Enough said.
        I didn’t really care of Chelsea’s attempt. She got her a chart that they used in school and then told her she’d do something cool with her if she got it on pink enough times. So now she’s bribing her to behave…. That’s good parenting right there.

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        Trap Baby…I’m just sitting here thinking about how, next week, when I watch Leverage on Netflix for the umpteenth time, you won’t be right here watching it with me. And when I take a piss at 3 am…you won’t be with me cheering me on…I’M JUST SO SCARED!

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        Ohhh leverage? I will have to check that out. I’ve been watching Misfits and it’s the funniest fucking show I’ve ever watched and I’m in love with the character Nathan even though he shares the same name as Jenelle’s homosexual carrot.

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      I thought it was cool that Chelsea took the “chart” method from Aubree’s daycare. It’s a simple way to help teach kids reward and consequence for their actions, and since Aubree is already familiar with it, it could really help Chelsea out! I feel so bad for her when Aubree has a meltdown and you can tell she just doesn’t know what to DO. I’ve had those moments with my niece and nephew over the years and part of it is I’m not their parent so I’m hesitant about how much to discipline or what is proper for me to control the situation. But she is Aubree’s mother and just seems at a loss of what to do! One thing I have learned though is that fighting back or pleading just makes things WORSE. It was good that Chelsea stuck to her ground about the spongebob toy and also didn’t react to Aubree flipping at out her in the kitchen. Hopefully things can improve for them both.

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        I wish more parents would deprive their children of spongebob. So goddamn annoying.

        I have the same problem with disciplining other people’s kids. My 5 year old niece is actually not really my niece but our best friends’ daughter. She’s usually a really sweet kid. However, I was talking with her mom the other day and the kid walks in front of me, holds out her hand (No fucking joke…like “talk to the hand”) and just purses her lips and says, “Please stop talking.” and gets all condescending with me and walks. the. fuck. away. I cannot stand a brat. Can’t. I’ve known her since she was 18 months old and I’m more comfortable “disciplining” her when she does something that DIRECTLY affects me. I just looked at her and said, “THAT was REALLY, REALLY rude and it REALLY hurt my feelings. WHY would you say that?” I made her cry but she cries every time she gets in trouble. And hopefully I embarrassed her damn mom enough that she’ll stop doing that to her husband because I KNOW that’s where the kid picked it up, haha.

        (P.s. I love my friends. I just can’t abide rude children. My personal hell is a child informing me that I’m fat or ugly something. It’s my theory that I don’t give a shit how young that kid is, I’m going to call them out on that shit until they cry and make them have compassion for the hippos of the world like me. This may or may not be because I’ve had this happen A LOT and it mortifies me every time.)

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        I’m so nervous that my niece or nephew will call me fat >.<

        My nephew recently told me that he saw pictures of me as a teenager (when I was probably too skinny) and he was like "you looked sooooo funny when you were skinny. You look better now." He didn't say I was fat, but he did say he thinks I look funny skinny and better heavier? Twas' an odd reverse compliment lol. I didn't really know what to say other than like "that's interesting that you feel that way". I don't think kids that young (7 for him) really know what it means so much to comment on someones weight. Not in a malicious way. I will let it slide. I'm more worried about it when they turn like 10.

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        Kids are so honest it’s horrible. Once I got otu of the pool and this stupid kid I was babysitting for was like Your hair looks like a rats nest LOL fuckhead.

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        Story time: I was in Sweetwater, TN at a Best Western (Class…I know.) I was a porky kid but I also hit puberty in like 5th grade so I was really tall and had boobies already. And not fun little training bra boobies. Angry boobies. Anyway…I was about 11 and decided I wanted to go swimming in the indoor pool (oooh…ahhh) and I went down there to swim. This little shitheadmotherfuckerassface kid was like 8 and started following me around IN the swimming pool just saying, “You’re fat. You’re fat. You’re fat.” Over and over and over again. I was so upset and I was crying quietly and my fucking mom was on the balcony by our room telling me to get the fucking lawn chairs out of the pool so I had to keep diving into the deep end from where I was swimming to get the chairs out that some snotrag had thrown in there. BUT I’m a big fat white girl and this little shitstain kid doing a running commentary on my adipose composition was a little black kid and you can’t turn around and slap a little black kid in Tennessee while his mom watches. No sir. So I just got out, wrapped a towel around myself and went up to the room. It’s haunted me ever since. Cue the trauma.

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        Oh my GOD that’s horrible!!! I would have beat the shit out of him, you were nicer than me. Angry boobies LOL i feel like I have those now.

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        I actually just had breast reduction surgery so I feel the pain (literally and metaphorically) of the angry boobies.

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        My cousin was like 7 when I was 16 and every time I had a spot that I was self conscious of and tried to slather concealer over, she would point it out infront of everyone. ‘Did you know you’ve got a big spot on your chin? Right there?’ *Points*
        YES I FUCKING KNEW!

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        Haha one of my best friends in middle and high school was a slutty frenemy in retrospect. Once she told me, “I’m really glad you don’t try to put concealer all over your zits. It just makes them more obvious and you don’t do that. I love that about you.” TOTALLY backhanded compliment. See also: “You don’t act like you’re not hungry. I mean, OBVIOUSLY, you eat. But most girls are like “oh no I’m not hungry” and you just go right for the pizza. It’s awesome.”

        what a twat she was.

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        @BETH you made me laugh so much with your comment that I had to close my window so my mean neighbour wouldn’t complain about noise!!

        My husband is Sri Lankan and in his culture they are all brutally honest and upfront. Him and all his friends openly call another guy we know fat and stuff!! I tell him its rude but he thinks its more rude to lie! So anyway I just went to Sri Lanka to visit his family and sister for the first time ever and when I got off the plane one of the first things his sister pointed out was a spot I had!! And I used to have blonde hair and would get very dark roots (hairdressers are so expensive!) and they would always tell me on Skype “your hair is black at the top!” Hahaha.

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        I would have had a hard time not spanking when she threw those toys holy balls I would have got my ass whooped

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        I said “no” to my dad once when I was 4 and thought he was going to murder me and bury me in the backyard with my fucking hamster, Peter. I’m glad I’m not the only one.

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      Proof spongebob corrupts kids.

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      Nathan’s Childs, your name cracks me up every time I see it Hahahaha

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    I hate to be one of “those” people, but during Leah’s lecture to Aleeah about wearing her seatbelt properly, baby Addie was very improperly restrained in her car seat. The chest piece was loose and laying across her stomach. It goes between the nipples and should be tighter. Sorry but that lazy safety shit really bothers me. Leah’s probably the most careless one I’ve seen, and I think Jenelle is the same way. They don’t bother to take the time to learn basic car seat safety. I hope nothing tragic happens.

    Kail was much less of a bitch these past couple episodes. I’m sure that’ll change soon.

    Jenelle disgusts me. She just sits there and puts up with Nathan’s abusive and disrespectful behavior. She has to be on something because she hardly moves or raises her voice anymore. She just sits on her ass and listens to that blithering idiot talk about “electronical” strollers and brand name baby gear.

    Chelsea is a pushover with everyone. I hope she gets more firm with disciplining Aubree. She seems to be getting better but had a ways to go.

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      I know, I can’t stand it when people improperly put their kids in car seats. It is not that hard to tighten the straps and push the chest up. It’s supposed to go just underneath the armpits, not the freaking belly… My sister in law would always put my niece in her seat like that, and it always bothered me. I never said anything because it’s not really my place to parent her child, but when they were leaving, I would offer to put her in the car seat. Or when everyone was saying bye, I would tighten the straps sneakily lol.

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      Time for Leah to go to boot camp!

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        I laughed SO hard about the baby boot camp LOL. My parents used to say thing it would scare the shit out of me.

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        I tell my nephew if he doesn’t wear the seatbelt in my car that the police will get upset. It successfully scares him into not fucking with his seatbelt, and it’s not even a lie either! win win.

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        Yeah seriously it’s true! That’s a good one. I acted like Aleeah when I was growing up (probably 10 times worse) and my mom said that the army men would pick me up and take me where all the other bad kids are at boot camp lmfao. Once I was like THEN CALL THEM. WAIT DON’T I’LL BE GOOD. God I’m never having kids.

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        Lol awww!!! That’s cute/sad.

        My sister is 7.5 years older than me and would babysit me when I was like 7 and she was 14. She would pretend to “call the police” when I was annoying her and I would get SO scared and upset. One time just by coincidence we heard sirens nearby and she was like “they’re coming for real this time!” I even started packing a suitcase because I thought I was going to jail and I was bawling the whole time. My parents were pretty upset with my sister when they got home LOL.

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        OMG LOL!!! The sirens thing was so coincidental! I would shit my pants. Omg the lies parents tell us… HAHA there’s some comedian I forget his name, he said he was going to tell the police on his dad for child abuse, and his dad was like well they’re going to take 20 minutes to get here and “someones gonna get hurt real bad”

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        Reminds me of an episode of the golden girls. Dorothy tells a girl with a terrible attitude that she is going to call the school for bad girls and they will put the girl in a sack and she will never eat candy or play jump rope again.

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        I told my four year old to leave it on right because if we got into an accident the belt could cut her head off.
        She didn’t care until she realized that meant she couldn’t watch Disney Jr.

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        @A…you have laughing SO hard right now that my dogs just came running because they thought I was crying! (which I almost was!) What your sister did to you sounds SOOO much like something my sister would have done! I can just a picture a tiny little kid in the room crying and packing a suitcase for jail! LOL! TOO fucking funny man!!

        Funny story..my sister was mean as shit to me. When I was like 4 or so, she was watching me and gave me damn dry cat food to eat and told me it was a special kind of cereal that you don’t put milk on. So..a few days later, I went and asked my mom if I could have some of that special cereal. My mom was like WTF, and I went and showed her the cereal, and my sister got her ass beat. My sister used to be such a cunt.

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        @Lucky Court Stah

        Well the feeling is mutual because I just burst out laughing at your cat food story!! That is hilarious. I could totally see my sister doing the same thing. She used to pull shit like that all the time. One time she told me to try eating a prune and she ate one too. Then she said they were actually caccoons with poisonous caterpillars inside and she fell over and played dead and I FREAKED out. Oh she also told me that the middle finger meant “I love you” when I was four years old and then I flipped off my mom and my sister got in shit.

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        Ugh! I am so anal about that! My husband used to put that damn clip all fucked up on my older son it would be twisted, falling off his shoulder & what do ya know at the belly! I bitched at him everytime he did it. Until recently when my in laws were here (I just gave birth) when my mother in law and I went to the store real quick with my oldest. She put him in his seat and sure enough JUST LIKE HER GODDAMN SON! Falling off his shoulder not tight at all and the strap was twisted. Of course I bit my tongue and just fixed it myself nicely, she saw me do it of course and said something like “oh I had kids too ya know you don’t have to be so paranoid Sam he would be just fine. Holy bitch! Lol when we got home I went upstairs and went through all those packets and papers they give you at the hospital after having a baby, and pulled out the car seat safety packet that has picture too (just in case) and threw it at both of them (I had the nurse lecture my husband:) so it was really to her) and I said look, look at this STATE REGULATED book that tells you what is safe and what is not. Let me tell you that shut her up real good! I swear she thinks I’m dumb and I make shit up, even when I tell her it specifically came from the dr. Or whatever it may be at the time I’m still wrong. Ugh two faced ya know somedays I love her and somedays I could go crazy on her! Lol good thing I love her son! It’s so weird too my husband and I get irritated with each other and then smart-Assly prove our point haha other than that in our five years together so far we have never raised our voices at each other. So my question is how does he come from her?!?!?!!!

        Sorry went off a lot.

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        My mother in law too- Right when she turns away- I fix it to not hurt her feelings :/ On another note I need a new name I think…

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      Come on…it’s not like Jenelle ever TOOK Jace anywhere. How would she know how a carseat works? Or that you don’t need a $300 one.

      Since last chunk of season 5, I really, REALLY think she’s on a shit ton of anxiety meds because she’s convinced her doctor she has “panic disorder” instead of bipolar disorder and possibly methadone or suboxone. There’s no way in FUCK she kicked heroin cold turkey and not weed. There’s just no way. Plus, Dr. Drew asked her if she was still taking anything and she said, “Only what my doctor gives me.” That sounded like an excuse answer to me so when she’s found out, she can be like “I NEVER LIED AND ADDICTION’S A DISEASE, DUDES!! START A COLLECTION FOR ME BECAUSE I HAVE A DISEASE! HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN OF SOMEONE WITH A DISEASE!!!” blah blah blah.

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      I honestly don’t think any of the Teen Moms know how to properly use a car seat or even what type of car seat (vs booster seat) is appropriate for their kids. I think the Teen Mom 3 group was the worst. I remember seeing Alex post pix of Arabella forward facing in at a couple of months old. Ugh it makes me so mad!!

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      The worst mom I ever saw with car safety was Farrah…she would have Sophia in a snowsuit with ONLY the clip fastened. I used to scream at the tv! Not to mention the places she would leave her daughter! Hah it still gets me furious…like the time she was moving into her first apartment and left Sophia strapped into her car seat on the doorstep AND SHUT THE DOOR!! I know the camera people were out there but seriously?!?! Then she would leave Sophia on the counter next to the sink when she was not even a year old and one time there were dirty knives next to her! Can you tell she traumatized me?

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        I remember her leaving Sophia sitting outside her apartment door.

        Do you also remember when she left her in the sink for a bath while she sat on the couch on her phone. She couldn’t even see her over the counter and she was messing with the faucet turning it on and off.

        I know there were more things she did but that’s all I can think of at this time.

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    I think Kaylin tweeted something the other day about how she’s back to not talking to her mom again. And the stuff Jenelle let’s Nathan get away with saying to the person raising her child, ugh they both disgust me.

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    Ahhhh, the recaps already up!? I’ve barely started the episode. Gaaahhhhh.

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    I think Issac just outed Javi – He’s at the beach?
    I like sober suzi!

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    Adam is the grossest person on the planet and should be locked up for a loooooooong time

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    Chelsea listen to Aubree. Aubs yelled ‘I don’t like you! You are not my friend’. Chelsea is trying to be Aub’s friend. Your kids will have lots of friends but they only get one mother. You need to be that mother. Parenting is not a popularity contest. Kids need rules and they actually WANT rules. It shows them you care. The earlier you lay down discipline, the easier it is. This is how you earn the respect of your children.

    When kids are toddlers and preschoolers you can easily take away Spongebob and put them in time-out. Not so easy when you have a grounded teen daughter sneaking out her window. Not so easy when your teen son is already a foot taller than you. Today Aubs is throwing toys at your head, in a few years it will be a chair. Do you hear me Chelsea & Leah?

    Jenelle. When a man is screaming so loudly at you, 2 inches from your face and he has a drinking problem, get the hell out! If it is so bad you have to call your mom at 3 a.m. to get your kid out of there, get yourself out too. Who is protecting the unborn baby? Who is protecting the new baby? Mothers put their kid’s well-being above everything else. Jenelle is putting herself first as usual. Better for HER to have a man around than her child to have safety. This is bullsh!t.

    Nathan & Jenelle are volatile and it will blow up. It will be horrific when it does. Mental illness, drug addiction, alcohol, anger issues, jail time, money issues and authority problems are a lethal combination. Someone is going to get hurt. Jenelle is so insecure and so damn needy that all she cares about it her needs. Put the damn kids first for once.

    I am disgusted by Kail’s mom. You do not get to pick and choose the years that you feel like being a mom. It is a permanent job, no days off, 24/7, forever. And it is one of the greatest blessings of life. It is an honour, a joy, amazing, challenging and exhausting. YOU got to be a mom, many never get the chance. Stop being selfish. You are no better than Adam. If you are in, you are in. If you are not, then stay the hell away. Stop ripping the scab off your daughter’s heart.

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      So many truth bombs.

      It’s like Dr. Phil but less smug.

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      There’s nothing wrong with a young child considering their parent to be a friend. My son calls a his best friend. Until he gets in trouble or he’s mad at me and suddenly my husband is his best friend lol. And vice versa.

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        It’s no problem at all if the parents are being PARENTS the majority of the time, though. You probably are and so is your husband. Chelsea isn’t. She defers to her dad to threaten punishment with Aubree and trash talks her daughter’s (WORTHLESS deadbeat dickbag of a) father IN FRONT of her all the time. It’s like she HAS to have drama where everyone hates Adam, even Aubree. Aubree loves her dad because she’s too young to know what a scuzzbucket he is. Aubree doesn’t see her mom as her mom in the sense that she has to listen and BEHAVE at all and that becomes a problem pretty damn fast.

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        When I count to 3, I follow through. Lol. I don’t say a quiet “please??” After 3 like Chelsea lol.

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        Do any of you spank your kid? cause I would NOT judge you if you did.

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        Me TTB. Not often. But when it’s called for. And a spanking is just a quick sharp slap on the bottom. I haven’t done it in a while. No need.

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        My parents whooped me for willful disobedience. Whether I got a hand or a belt depended on the offence. I don’t hate my parents, I’m not traumatized, and I’m thankful they did it. If I ever have a kid, I prolly won’t use a belt, but whoopings will happen for willful disobedience.

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        Yes I spank. But I give a warning before I do. and I never spank when I am angry.

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        Yes Trap, I have spanked and have been spanked. Not like abusive spanking but enough to show them they aren’t in control and you aren’t playing. My sons older now so I haven’t had to do that in awhile, but trust me, if needed, I’d do it again.

        I feel like that’s a lot of the problem nowadays. No one does anymore because they are scared of what others will say or about getting in trouble for it. Then, we end up with smartass hateful fucking kids everywhere and teens daring their parents to lay a hand on them, and threatening to call the cops if they do.

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        I do the same. When its called for and I give a warning too. Dont have to do it too often but honestly sometimes theres need for it. Just one good slap on the bum lol hey some do some dont I wish parents didnt judge eachother so harshly.

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        Dude good for yall. Yea I agree just spanking when you really need it, but a warning first is wise. S ome people are too fast to spank and some people REALLY need to. Question would you have spanked Aubree with that tantrum?

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        I’m not a parent, and I’m not going to be for a long time, so my opinion here probably means jack. I wouldn’t have spanked for giving an attitude, but I would have for throwing things at mom. I can’t really even explain why, it just kind of makes sense to me.

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        Refusal to Spank due to Anger/Wait Until Your Father Gets Home was the most terrifying of all spanking situations.

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        Trap, to answer your question, yes, I would’ve spanked Aubree for that shit. BUT, she never should have been able to get to this point to where she acts like she does. Time outs (serious ones) and if necessary, tiny spankings should have happened long ago when this attitude started and trust me, it would have stopped immediately. Aubree knows she can get away with it now. Chelsea just seems too overwhelmed with her behavior at this point, and in this scene, it looked like she wanted to cry!

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        I feel like the effectiveness of a spanking depends on the kid. My daughter gets a time out (rarely, we got lucky that she’s a really good girl) and it makes her break down. I try counting to 3 but I never get any further than 1 lol. If we spanked her I feel like the message would be lost and all she would remember is that we hurt her. Now my friend’s daughter, that girl needs spankings. She laughs when you count, laughs when you put her in time out or take away something. Sometimes she even laughs when you spank her, but it’s the only thing that works the majority of the time.

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        The issue is Chelsea acts more like her friend then her mom. She doesn’t know how to discipline her at all. The girl has turned into a total brat. She treats Aubree like one of the girls when she needs to be her mom. Everytime she has a mini tantrum she give her whatever she wants to keep it from turning into an all out tantrum. When I was Aubree’s age if my mom gave me a look I stopped everything I was doing. My mom was really strict with me. Everyone still remembers how my mom would put me in a corner when I was bad. She’d pick me up and take me away from the crowd and have me stand in a corner. I used to cry because I was in trouble and then I’d say sorry and beg my mom to hug me because I didn’t want her to be mad at me anymore. Then she’d tell me that she loved me but I needed to behave. She said she she didn’t like to punish me but she didn’t have a choice if I was going to act bad. I knew better then to act out very soon after that. I didn’t like to be in trouble so I was always well behaved. My mom says to this day I was the best behaved child she has and everyone would always give her compliments on how well behaved I was. She was a lot easier on my youngest sister (I think she got to the point where she was to tired to parents she didn’t want to do it anymore she’s the 3rd child) and now the girls is 15 and a total brat. She lies and sneaks around and my mom is sick with grief over her. She blames herself for not being tougher on her when she was younger so she doesn’t have that discipline instilled in her. I can see Aubree being a lot like my sister except even worse when she gets older because Chelsea is too focused on being her friend and making her love her then being her mom and teaching her right from wrong.

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        I think I was just a weird kid. My mom would put me in the corner and, after a few minutes, tell me,”you can come out if you can behave. Can you behave?” What did I do? Yell no, start crying, and run back down the hall to my room (which had no toys, I was an only child with a play room for toys… so it wasn’t like I got to play). Also, if my mom fussed even a little at me, like don’t touch the iron, it’s hot… I would put myself in the corner because “I was bad”. I think I made it easy on my mom. A self punishing kid.

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        lol that’s adorable, Queen Bitchlord. I once put my god-daughter in time out for hitting me and after a while asked her if she was going to hit me again. She said “yes”. Through tears and walked back to the corner without me even having to tell her. A few minutes later she came back out and informed me she was done hitting.

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      NEWDAY!!! ADOPT ME. I’m a grown ass woman but seriously…be my mom!!

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        I may as well adopt you because:
        1. We already agreed I will be there during your childbirths so I can kick people out who annoy you and talk you calmly through it
        2. You cannot marry my son because you are already married
        3. I always wanted a daughter
        4. Your humour is warped like mine and so that makes us practically related already!
        5. Trap Baby can sign as our witness because then you can finally meet
        6. I HAVE TO meet your cat and I insist he wears his pajamas to your adoption ceremony!

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      I think Chelsea want to be the most loved parent and she hates that Aubree seems to like spending time with daddy more than her, everytime she wants to go with him and thats probably for 2 reasons –
      1. she barely gets to see her dad
      2. He does discipline her pretty well so she knows her boundaries.

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        Yeah like “daddy can’t make you grilled cheese and show you his new tattoos because he’s in jail again” boundaries.

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    5. Ali eating spaghetti on the floor.

    6. Jenelle’s friend being the same girl from Buckwild.

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    Why is there only a bonus clip for this episode on MTV.com, and not the full episode? πŸ™ I’m in NZ but our internet company got this global mode, so now I can actually watch the episodes at the same time they come out!

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    Okay, finally got to watch the episode. Here we go..

    Chelsea handled Aubree a little better than I thought. My kiddo tries to act out like that after I let him stay with Nana for a night. He gets out of his attitude quick, though. I feel like the grandparents shouldn’t supervise the visits if that’s how they want to act. Chelsea does have he right to know what’s happening.

    I was bored during Kailyns segment, which isn’t a bad thing. From what I hear, Suzi didn’t stay sober, that really sucks. You can tell Kail what’s the relationship with her mother and she keeps getting let down. She can be a bitch, but everybody should have a good relationship with their parents.

    Leah is REAAAAALLY starting to bug me. I really can’t stand to listen to her talk anymore. She’s always preaching to everybody and acting like she literally knows it all. She treats Corey and Miranda like they have no clue what’s going on with Ali at all. Corey seems so disconnected and uncomfortable in front of the cameras, poor guy. I wish Aleeah had more attention.

    I felt bad for Juuuuhnelle for a few seconds, then got over it because I remembered she brought this all onto herself. I’m sorry, but if you’re arguing like she described, then you shouldn’t be together. Stupid bitches. Babs needs to take Kai and Jace and run..run far away.

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      Aubree and her behavior has nothing to do with that though, she is always that bratty and it’s because Chelsea hasn’t got a clue how to discipline. There aare classes she could take.. i think she just needs to learn when kids say “i dont like you, i hate you” during a tantrum they do not mean it and i think she doesnt understand that.

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    Leah needs to get Aleeah something that Ali does not receive a duplicate of or anything similar to it. It was nice to see her have a moment with Aleeah this episode. Jenelle was mainly without Jace again as usual. Chelsea is trying to blame Aubree’s bad behavior on her visits with Adam’s family but we all know that it’s a lie. I remember on one of the earlier seasons when Aubree couldn’t have been older than two or three she was telling Chelsea to repeatedly shut up and when Chelsea put her in time out she threw a fit just like she does now. Electronical.

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      Right? So nice to see her SPEAK TO ONE OF HER KIDS!! Seriously…she never talks to that kid. And Addy’s just Uncle Festering out in the corner so she’s a nonentity as well.

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        LOLLLLLLLL Uncle Festering. Oh poor thing…she needs some hair. How the fuck is Kails offspring infinitely cuter than Leah’s?

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        It’s not kail who gives the good genes it’s the Hispanic sides and white mix I think

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        I think part of Leah’s girlses problem is they always look so unkempt. Hair in their faces, outfits that don’t match, etc. Isaac and Lincoln are always put together and nice looking. And Lincoln has that adorable bear suit that has just been the highlight of the last several weeks.

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        Kail has always made sure that Isaac and Lincoln both are well groomed. Chelsea always makes sure Aubree looks nice too but I’ve noticed her nails always look grubby with dirt or something all around her nails.

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        Javi likes to dress Lincoln in the bear suit because Miley was into bear costumes. Flashback VMAs 2013

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        Pookie you are dead on LOL. That bear suit is fucking cute though. Yeah I agree, biracial kids are just gorgeous! But honestly Lincoln must take after a great great grandparent. Chlamlydia takes zero part in the cute gene pool

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        I’m a mix and I have to say I’m not bad πŸ˜‰ But really- I think spanish and half spanish babies are gorgeous!

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        Are you guys forgetting what Isaac looked like when he was still a baby? Being mixed does not guarantee being cute lol

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        Yeah, dude, baby Isaac looked like Verne Troyer. Now he’s cute as hell.

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        yeah the whole time she was talkin to gracie I was thinking she said jermey was away at work so she was alone with the girlses so who was keeping an eye on the other 2 especially the baby?? what was she like “oh hey ali can ya keep an eye on the baby while I go talk to sissy??, and if yall get hungry theres a lunchable in the fridge, just use the highchair to climb up if you cant reach it, and if your still hungry after that eat those Cheetos off the floor cause I just really don’t feel like vacuuming today, now here blow these balloons up for the baby and be a good little girl”

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      I liked her moment with Aleah also. It was sweet. A lot of people weren’t impressed but I liked it. At least she tried. I do think it’s something she should have done with Corey. THe two of them should’ve sat down together with Aleah and talked to her.
      Jenelle isn’t as bad as she usually is this season and I think she’s on something. That’s the only way to explain it.
      Chelsea has no one to blame for Aubree’s bad behavior except for herself. She’s the one that needs to learn how to parent her. Grandparents always spoil their kids. It’s up to you to be a good enough parent for them to know that when they’re with their parents they get treated one way and when they’re with you they get treated another.

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        Yea I feel like I’m being hard on her with it….like Aleeah did not understand any of it, but hey at least she’s trying to explain. It was really heartbreaking to hear that about the wheelchair πŸ™ So sad

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        I have to agree, I liked it too. I think we sometimes forget that there are grown-ups, in their 30’s, committed in a long-term/married relationship, who crumble dealing with a disabled child. Leah is still a kid herself really, she is young. She does not have great role models either. Yes, she is the one who got pregnant and has 3 kids so young, but it is HARD. Ali has a devastating diagnosis.

        Leah herself is likely struggling with the financial, emotional and long-term consequences of Ali’s diagnosis. She at least tried to explain it to Gracie. Even the most educated parent would have a horrible time dealing with this diagnosis. Ali will slowly become weaker head to toe, until her breathing muscles quit and suffocate her. An adult cannot process this so explaining it to Gracie would be such a challenge. I give her credit for trying. My heart breaks for them, it really does. I would have been bawling having that talk with her and I am strong.

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    Anyone else notice that Kail called her mom “mommy’s mom” to Isaac? I guess she didn’t feel comfortable with him calling her grandma.

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    OK now that I’ve seen the ep…

    Jenelle: Like I said above, total trash, to let the woman raising her child be bullied by her boooooyfriend. How ironic that the disrespectful Nathan calls Babs disrespectful… And how he throws out accusations like alcoholism that apparently have no basis. Like I legit don’t even enjoy seeing them on TV. And ugh just looked to see what they had to say for themselves during the episode and Nathan was quiet, and all Jenelle did was retweet her minions telling her how great she is. Makes me sick that people praise people like that ugh! “Your mom’s so mean to meeeee” hahahahahaha!

    Kaylin: So sad to watch Suzi actually really be there for her as a mom and know that now she’s back on the booze again. This is why I hate alcohol. Well one of many reasons. Also I can totally believe that Javi was actually playing at the beach. or maybe that’s his job in the airforce LOLZ! Also if Javi didn’t try to act like his dad and if Kail didn’t encourage him to then maybe he wouldn’t be as affected by him being gone. Also I’ve been reading too many of y’all’s comments! When Javi said “I’m gonna come home and squeeze you” it totally gave me the creeps!

    Not much to say about Chelsea’s segments other than I’m glad I don’t have kids!

    Next week’s preview looks interesting for Leah.

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      I think it’s definitely possible that deep down Suzi really cares about Kail, it’s just that she’s so far along in her addiction that she has lost all control of it. I guess that’s what they say about addiction, it doesn’t matter how good of a person you are because the drugs take it all away. But I do hope Kail’s mom gets real help and can someday get sober. But like Jenelle, she might have to hit rock bottom before she can turn her life around and sadly it doesn’t look like she is there yet.

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    Nathan can afford that idiotic stroller but can’t afford a shirt. OKAY THEN.

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    Leah making fun of Jeremy for buying her a Keurig and sayings that it will make her want to have sex with him was creepy. I didn’t really want to know about that. I mean, my husband bought me the fancy expensive Keurig for Christmas but he is fully aware of how unpleasant I am without my coffee. It wasn’t to get me to have sex with him. I don’t know, but Leah seems a little more “DTF” than most, if you will. I find it surprising that she would be holding out on sex. Seemed like an unnecessary part to put in the episode.

    Is it just me or did Nathan seem stoned or drunk after barb left? Slow, slurred speech and red puffy cheeks? I bet he went into the bathroom and smoked out of the bathroom bong or took a couple or 20 sips out of a flask I bet he keeps stashed in there.

    The timeline with these girls doesn’t really make sense to me. In Kail’s parts, it’s cold and snowing, but the rest of them are in shorts and complaining about the heat. It just makes things seem so out of order when these same episodes are shot in different seasons.

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    1- Leah, I feel for the blonde one it is so sad that she gets so little attention, she is freking crying out for it. What rubbed me up the wrong way was when Leah was like “you have to make sur eyou give them equal attention” … bitch you give them no attention at all, Ali a little but do you even know your other kids name? It seems clear to me her list of priorities – Ali, Addie, Aleah. When Corey has them the girlses get, from what I see, equal attention (just a little difference because od Ali and her med needs obviously but it isn’t as noticeable) and I forgot to mention last episode I could have punched Leah, like acting like Jeff doing her a favour was really big of Leah to do… uh no. He did you a favor and you said your welcome?
    Kailyn – It is really nice to see her having support from her mom, it is so sad that Isaac thinks that, he must be confused with his dad living ages away and his stepdad being absent but i think suzi handled that pretty well!
    Jenelle – Yeah good on her for not wanting jace around fighting but do you know what, why does your kid have to leave? Nathan should leave until he can stop being such an ass hat … stop putting your relationship before your kid, but then again we both know she wouldn’t even see jace without nathan there because she can’t handle it… god hep her wih 2.
    Chelsea – I will say she could always know if he is in jail, it’s like she has to rely on adults to do all the research for her … do it yourself! Yeah chelsea has a right to know but you know what i know why his parents wouldnt tell her, they prob watch the show and see how she talks shit about their son in front of their grandchild, they probably didnt want their grandaughter to hate her daddy. It’s like last week, we don’t know the whole story with adumb being late, he could have been working night shift or something and did make a big effort to even show up, we don’t know! Then chelsea “whispers” and then shouts she cant talk loud because she is in the back… she heard everything you said, if that was me i would have wanted to save my kids feelings, I would have said “yeah daddy was watching from across the field, he just took a while to get over thats all … spares her feelings, you can tell her when she is old enough to understand and deal with it that he is a POS.

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      It bugged me last week how she was like guess what daddy is coming. I really felt like she purposely told her that he was coming knowing that he wasn’t going to show up to make her hate him even more. Just the way she was talking it sounded like she didn’t really believe that he was coming. I don’t want to think that Chelsea would do that to her daughter just to make her hate Adam but it was just so shady the way it went down. If I were Chelsea I wouldn’t have said anything about it. She knows how flakey Adam is. She shouldn’t have said anything and then if he shows up then it’s a good surprise and if he doesn’t show up then no harm done. Plus it was just a practice. Most parents drop their kids off for practice then pick them up. The practice isn’t as important as the game. Then she had to go talk about it to her dad while Aubree was in the car. Of course she’s gonna say that her dad missed and she’s so upset about it. Chelsea had already planted the idea in her head. Aubree’s too young right now to deal with the fact that she has a POS dad. Chelsea needs to protect her from it as long as she can.

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      Adam said so himself he was late because he was sleeping. He’s a piece of shit who doesn’t even deserve to be around Aubree. If sleeping during the day is more important than the limited time you get with your child, you’re a sack of shit.

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        Dude what did i just say? (on here it comes out rude but try and imagine a funny accent on it, it’s a funny dude what did i just say not a bitchy one) Yeah if he was sleeping just because he is lazy and CBA then yeah he is a POS but MTV do make adumb look bad all the time. How do we know he didn’t also tell her “sorry I was asleep ……. yeah paislee had me up all night, she was teething or yeah sorry i was sleeping because I worked night shift last night” … it isn’t impossible. I bet if he made it to the game and went celebrating with her etc mtv would just miss that out though because him being a “good dad” doesn’t make good tv for chelseas segments because the only drama in chelseas segments is him being a POS so they only show bad bits.
        With Kail they have the lack of her dad/ her mum/ her marriage/ her co parenting/ vee/ lincoln/ rasing 2 kids/ having a husband in the army…. with jenelle they have custody problems/ alcholic partner/ criminal charges/ drug use/ animal abuse/ her being a crappy mom/ being pregnant/ soon to be another baby … with Leah they have alis medical needs/ a husband who works away/ 3 kids/ co parenting/ 2 sets of step parents/ money arguments … Chelsea only has Adam as her drama, she has nothing else so they need to emphasize it… it’s like when dallis was introduced in macis segments they edited it to make her sound like a bitch when they caught her saying something”mean” in the car, but Dallis, ryan and im sure even maci said it was taken completely out of context and she meant she wanted the arguments to stop but they edited it to only have the offensive part shown.
        MTV can warp things to make more drama and that whole situation just seemed staged/not 100% accurate to me.

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        Especially when you see that child like, one day a month!

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    Leah: I like the fact that she finally had some one-on-one time with Aleah and talked to her like a normal human being. However, was it just me, or did she totally brush off what Miranda was saying. She said “Yeah” or something like that and turned her head real quick. Maybe I’m just imagining it, but I was like, woah.

    Kailyn: I’m glad her mom finally got to spend some time with them and she seemed relatively normal. I am hoping for Kail’s sake that she doesn’t go back. When Kail was talking to Javi about it, she just seemed like a lost little kid who want their mom, and I’m not saying it in a bad way. It was actually sad.

    Chelsea: My boyfriend cannot stand the way she parents Aubree and neither can I. If my kid was hitting and kicking me, you better believe that there would be some consequences and I’m not talking just a timeout. Also, if your kid says they don’t want to go to school, who cares? They’re still going. That’s your job as a parent, to make them go.

    Jenelle: I wanted to smack the shit out of Nathan when he was yelling at Babs like that. If anyone ever talked to my mother like that, they’d be picking themselves out of the wall and then they’d be spackling over the hole they made. Jenelle sounded so dumb “I was so torn…” How about sticking up for the woman who raised you and is raising your child because you’re a dumb little whorebag. “He doesn’t take criticism well…” Gimme a break! That guy’s ego is through the roof! I wish someone would take him down a few pegs. He really needs it. He’s had 3 DUI’s and he gets upset because Babs said he needs to stop drinking so much? Of course you need to stop drinking so much, you stupid asshole, YOU’VE HAD 3 DUI’S THAT’S NOT NORMAL! I could go on all day, but I’ll end my rant here.

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      I didn’t understand Chelsea then, either. She told aubree that she was going to ask her one more time to go to school and if she said no, she would be sent to her room. This makes NO SENSE!! The kid WANTED to go to her room. I’m so surprised that didn’t backfire on Chelsea.

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        Ugh, my husband did that to our son the other day. He was struggling to get ready for school and my husband was like “if you don’t, you’re not going to school!!” I said DONT DO THAT. lol!!

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        I’m surprised she didn’t lock herself in the damn room again.

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        You have to be able to carry out the threat. If you are running late and the child will not get ready, don’t threaten to send her to her room. You also don’t ASK a child to do what is expected that they do. If Chels asks ‘are you going to go to school?’ that means there is a choice. There is NO choice. She needs to say ‘Aubree you ARE going to school. You can either go fighting or go nicely, but you ARE going’. If she acts bratty then say ‘ok so you want to fight with me, so after school today, you will be in time-out as soon as you get home’. And follow through with it so Aubs remembers the next time she wants to argue. After school, bring her home and remind her that she chose to argue, so as promised she will now have a time-out. Don’t make time-out in a fun place like her room. If Chels does not take control now, it will only get harder.

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      I wonder what Kails mom thought about those classy photos in the bedroom BARFFFFFFFF. No wonder Lincoln doesn’t want to eat he’s nauseous like I am.

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    Did anybody notice that Nathan might have been drunk in the last scene where he was talking to Jenelle? He just seemed so out of it! Douche Bag!

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    I have a few things:

    1. Someone seriously needs to change their name to Nathan’s Electronical Stroller. I about died when she said that shit. Oh my dear lord.

    2. I really want to know what in the hell Juhnelle is on. I know her ass is on something because she has never been so calm and level headed in her life. Juhnelle is the voice of reason?! Shut the front door!

    3. I feel really bad for Chelsea actually. Everyone talks about what a little shit Aubrey is (and yes she is), but it is really hard to get a kid to act right all the time (especially when cameras are in their face and they want to act out more) when they are in constant chaos going back and forth from house to house. We have my little niece and she will go visit with her family sometimes and when she comes back she’s like a totally different child.. then after a few days she’s a normal… and by that time she goes back to visit them again and it starts the bad behavior over again.

    4. It was nice to see Leah talking to Gracie about Ali’s condition. I know she didn’t really understand what was being said but hell, the girl got some attention that wasn’t negative.

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      Agree with all your comments but only partly with the Chelsea one. We don’t expect the kids to be well behaved 24/7 but Aubree has a tantrum every episode, and from what we see for every tantrum Chelsea handles it shitty every single time. The behavior chart is all good but who wants to bet she will get a sticker every day even when she is a brat?
      I mean look at isaac, he had a tantrum last episode but no one criticized it because whenever he acts up kailyn handles it so well, she is the only parent that actually deals with their kids behavior properly, leah does the quick spank and done and teaches her kids to fear her not respect her (ps has anyone else noticed she only seems to spank aleeah?), jenelle ignored jaces hitting, and chelsea is to busy trying to be her kids friend than her kids mother. You get loads of friends as a kid but only one mom and aubree is crying out for boundaries. Kailyn is the only mom on the show that uses words and kinda treats isaac as an equal i.e. she explains what is wrong, sticks to time out breaks and guides him well. I hate when parents hit their kids (spanking) I have family members that do it and the look of fear in their kids face is heartbreaking, not to mention it doesn’t stop the kids doing what it was it just makes them do it and try not get caught because in most cases when a parent spanks they dont explain why the kid shouldn’t do what they did, i.e. with leah spanking alleah for spraying hair spray .. she told her no twicce then grabbed the bottle and spanked her… then she didnt tell her why you dont do that… at 4 how do kids know that hairspray is harmful?

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        Yea, I gotta say… I got spanked as a kid, but I always knew why. It was willful disobedience… like I did something I knew I shouldn’t do and got spanked for it. So, I never feared my parents because I knew I got what I deserved…. like the time I was 8 and forged my mom’s signature on some tests that I did bad on. I knew I shouldn’t have done it, I got caught, I got spanked, and that was it. I did get to explain why I did it as well. My parents were usually pretty fair with me and used spanking as the last resort.

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        I like to think about how these chicks parent when I’m having a rough time keeping my patience with my daughter. It makes me feel like supermom πŸ™‚

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    It was so sad when Leah told Aleeah that having a wheelchair wasn’t really a good thing but that for Ali, they were going to make it the best thing.

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    Also, can we talk about how Isaac’s marker mustache is infinitely more impressive than Javi’s attempt at one?

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    Laughed my ASS off when Corey and Miranda were taking the girls to the zoo and Corey asked them what he told them about stuffed animals. Alleah says “you an animal”! God, she’s funny.

    I think Miranda is such a good example for the girls, especially because being a step mom is hard!

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    I watch this show because it makes me feel better about impending parenthood.

    I’m still a season behind, but I can already see the attitude in Aubree – half the issue is, Chelsea allows and encourages the behaviour by arguing and engaging in the attitude instead of shutting it down. Whenever she tells Aubree to stop she says it in such a defeated tone, there is never any strength behind it. Aubree knows there isn’t really a consequence to her behaviour. Having said all that – I think Chelsea is doing ok in general these days, sure there are things she could do without doing (including slagging off Adam in front of Aubree)

    I am witnessing Aleeah getting ignored in favour of Ali – albeit not purposefully on either side. This is a pretty easy trap to fall into I should imagine and I hope they pull their heads up and realise Aleeah needs attention too!

    Jenelle makes me panic less about being a mum! I can’t be as rubbish as her and that makes me feel better. I’m terrified!!

    Kailyn… she wouldn’t know how to say a sentence without finding something to moan about!

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    It was nice to see Ali and Aleeah have their hair out of their faces for once, they are such pretty “girlses” is was nice.

    I guess Emery isn’t apart of Nathan’s family. He was creepy when he was talking to Jenelle on the couch in his cut up shirt, can he please go away now?

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    Can we talk about how Jenelle THREW HER OWN BABY SHOWER? And how effing tacky was it for Gaythan to say that he knew that shit was expensive but that they weren’t buying it, they were asking other people to! Babs was totally trying to tell them that money doesn’t grow on trees and that their material obsessions were unnecessary but no, Nathan takes that to mean Babs is jealous. Im not a prude, I don’t care when people have baby showers for their second kid, make registries, etc. but it’s extremely distasteful to throw yourself a shower and expect people to buy the expensive items for you. I don’t judge those who have really nice baby items, but it needs to be because they bought their own stuff or someone gifted it to them without it being expected. I have a friend who is just like Jenelle, minus the drugs. Ditched first kid with her parents to go move in with some guy, gets knocked up, and now pretending to be world’s greatest mom to her older one even though she rarely sees him. The younger one is only being given attention because baby daddy is still around. Once he leaves, baby will no longer be an interest.

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      Ughhhhhhhh Nathan!!! I try not to let him and jenelle get to me but this episode did it for me. I would never dream of asking my Friends or family to buy me an expensive stroller like that! Nathan is a disgusting being.Nathan is a rat, hes fleas on rats, worse than that he is amoebas on fleas on rats!

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      How sad. I didn’t want to bring up the shower thing, because I was afraid my opinion would be unpopular but throwing a gift-giving party for yourself is just in poor taste. I’m not a huge fan of having multiple showers either, but it doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the idea of Juhnille and Carrot Pants saying on tv that they don’t care how expensive things are, because someone else will buy it for them. I hope they don’t try to pull that “the shower isn’t about gifts, it’s celebrating our growing faaaaaamilyyy” crap, because those two are a pair of greedy materialistic pigs and all they want is attention and presents.

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      I scoffed at that too. So much for Babs and Nathan’s mom throwing her showers, bitch threw them for herself. And $70 on invitations? Nuts. You can make your own for a third of that.
      The $900 stroller was just insane. Nobody needs a $900 stroller that the baby is just going to grow out of in less than a year. If you have the money to waste, go for it, but I see it as incredibly unnecessary.
      I remember her registry getting leaked and there being like four cribs on it, and tons of other shit in just excessive quantities.

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        You could be like Kim Kardashian and just leave the fucking kid in the stroller until it’s 18.

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        I’m 35 weeks pregnant and my sister threw me a baby shower over the weekend. If I registered for a $900 stroller, I don’t think anyone would have even showed up for the shower, nevermind actually thinking people would buy it. Not to mention, that stroller did not seem too practical anyway. It didn’t seem to fold/unfold itself too quickly. I could see Nathan getting frustrated with it, throwing it across a parking lot, and breaking it.

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        Nathan kept calling it a PREG PREGGO. You effing, classy idiot, it is called a Peg Perego stroller! Your more classier girlfriend is Preg Preggo, not the stroller!

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    Longtime reader here, first time poster!

    Anyway, did anybody else notice when Juhnelle was talking to that Buckwild chick, she said Nathan was “out getting lunch”? I thought you weren’t supposed to be driving, Nathan? πŸ˜‰
    When their lawyer was “attacking” them a few episodes ago (SHE’S JUST A HATERRRR) about Nathan being seen out driving on his revoked license, Juhnelle said that they always go everywhere together and she ALWAYS drives. Just goes to show they think they can get away with anything.
    I understand he could’ve been out with friends, but let’s face it – it’s Juhnelle and she has to let everybody know how much people love Nathan and her so if he had gone out with some “friends” (I use that term loosely), she wouldn’t have left that part out.

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    My husband hates this show (or so he says) but watches it with me every week. I’ve already forgotten a lot of this, but I have to type out some of his snarky one-liners before I forget the rest! I was dying

    On Nathan:
    “He’s an embarrassment to humans”
    “His torn shirt looks like a bib that a member of Hell’s Angels would put on their baby”

    On Chelsea’s friend, the one that lives with her:
    “She looks like the third member of The Proclaimers”

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    When I was watching the episode and the part where Isaac is talking about Javi not caring about them, but I was totally distracted because we have those same chairs.

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    When I was watching the episode and the part where Isaac is talking about Javi not caring about them, but I was totally distracted because I have those same chairs in my dining room too.

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    For real, you’re all too sweet. Your comments make me laugh, and I am glad that I can entertain all of you.

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    I have to put this out there, I have been reading this site for some time & finally just had to sign up. The comments left on here have made me giggle & at times completly laugh out loud, something I shouldnt be doing while at work. lol The regulars on here have made watching the show so much more interesting. Last night I missed the show but made sure I logged on just to read the comments being left. Thanks for letting me know there more reality junkies like me out there.

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    OK My turn, long time reader, first time posting.

    Can we talk about how Juhnelle used her big girl words? She told that girl from Buck Wild that it looks like she had eczema. It felt like she had to force the only medical term she knew in the conversation.

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      Well you know, she is going to be a medical assistant….

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      Hi Aubree’s Raspy Voice! (Your username made me smile, she’s so cute when she’s not demonic πŸ™‚ )

      If I was ever at a hospital or doctors office and Jenelle walked in wearing scrubs, I would get the heck out of there. Honestly, I feel like she’s interested in the medical field because she thinks she’ll have easy access to pills. I really think she’s abusing prescription drugs, and I would bet she has no idea that taking pills in excess is drug abuse. She seems like the type to think that because it came from a doctor, it’s fine.

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        Barb’s Cackle, love that name! I felt the same way when I found out Jenelle was studying for a job in the medical field! But what she fails to realize is that her chances of actually getting a job in that field are slim to none, based on her prior history of drug-related arrests. She’d fail the background check for sure!

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        Thank you πŸ™‚ the girl is nuts, for sure. It’s kind of sad if she is really going through all this work, it’s kind of pointless since she won’t be able to get a job. But then I remember odds are she won’t actually finish, so it’s all good.

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    Does Nathan know how to properly wear shirts?! Come on, dude. No one wants to see your nipples.

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    I just remembered something else. When jenelle NAND Barbara were sitting on the couch, before Nathan went crazy on Barbara, jenelle said he was out getting something to eat. I can’t see him walking or riding a bike. I am sure he was driving around. If I was Barbara, I’d start calling the police and telling them that he’s driving with a revoked license.

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    Kailyn – I hope that she and Suzi can mend their relationship. I understand how Kail can end up being kind of a bitch, she’s been through some tough stuff. Sometimes a woman has to be a bitch to make it through. You can tell that she’s a good mom. Linc is SO cute too.
    Leah – I really feel like she’s a good person, but is just kind of dumb. It might just be because she’s really young, but I want to believe that she’s a good person. I hope everything works out for her with the insurance for the chair too. I really like Corey, but you can tell that Miranda doesn’t care for the cameras being around. I hope that Aleeah doesn’t end up feeling left out. I grew up with a brother who has Autism so I know that it can be tough to be the “normal” (I hate it when people phrase it that way, too) child.
    Jenelle – As annoyed by Jenelle and Nathan as I am (I think pretty much everyone is) I feel like at least if they’re going to spend too much money on something it be on stuff for their kid(s) instead of drugs or alcohol. Nathan is an idiot. It is a waste of time to try to argue with them period. The best thing you can do is be prepared for her(/his) kid(s) to end up completely like them and hope like hell that they don’t. If Babs can take care of Jace, hold down a full time job, pay her bills, and stay sane, then she can drink whatever she likes to. Nathan is just being a disrespectful prick. I don’t think she’s jealous of him at all, but hey, at least they came to the conclusion that they need to can it in order to (try to) have a good environment for the roll.
    Chelsea – Adam gets arrested for the millionth time. His parents don’t tell her all of his business so she gets mad because she can’t talk about it 24/7 in front of Aubree. I do like Chelsea, but she needs to work on that.. I think most of the girls do need to work on talking junk about people in front of their small children.

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    OK..something is seriously wrong with Gaythan. I dunno..I would say mentally challenged, but that’s too kind. His outbursts, his inability to pronounce anything..

    I just have a feeling that Jenelle is going to end up in the trunk of his car. When I think of him I hear Eminem’s song “Stan” for some reason.

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    Poor Isaac. Military life isn’t easy. As for Kail’s mom, I doubt that situation will get better, but I’m happy she was able to get a little bit of help while Javi was gone. I get stressed taking care of my one baby while my husband is away, I couldn’t imagine a small child and a baby, for an entire month. Props to all of you single moms out there!

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    I saw them at the zoo that day! Miranda was kind of stuck up but in her defense it was super hot out. I said something to her (looking back it was awkward, ugh) and she just looked at me and didn’t respond. They seemed great with the kids though. I