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Teen Mom 2: Season 5 Episode 20-Something Recap

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Kailyn:

Kailyn and Javi go out to supper to celebrate his return from his military training. They talk about their custody schedule for the summer and Kailyn says that Isaac will be with Jo for 6 weeks and with them for 6 weeks.

Kailyn meets with Jo to talk about the summer visitation schedule. It’s kind of nice that Jo and Kailyn go to the park with Isaac and Lincoln. Jo even calls Kailyn a super mom because she’s able to get Isaac in bed earlier than he is. Jo even suggests that Kailyn should leave Lincoln with him for a day or so. Kailyn asks Jo about her family vacation and says that the schedule doesn’t really work for him since it falls on Father’s Day. Jo says he was planning on having a cookout with his family over that weekend, and that he doesn’t see any way around it. Even though they didn’t make an agreement that everyone is happy about, they still seemed like they handled it like adults and that’s a huge improvement.

Jo and Vee talk about having Isaac for 6 weeks in the summer, and they’re excited that they’re going to have a little more time with him. Jo mentions that Kailyn had the vacation conflict but says that he told Kailyn that she couldn’t take Isaac for Father’s Day. He says that Kailyn is disappointed but that he wanted to make a point to keep Father’s Day for himself.

Kailyn tells Javi that Jo doesn’t want Isaac to go to the family vacation so now they go on family vacation without Isaac. Javi says that Kailyn doesn’t push for things enough, but Kailyn says that it’s not what’s best for Jo or best for Kailyn, but that it’s what’s best for Isaac. Kailyn says that she’s sick of fighting with everyone about time with Isaac, and that it’s exhausting to always be fighting with Jo about time. Kailyn leaves the room angry…that seems like a theme tonight.

Chelsea:

Chelsea gives Aubree a facial at work and Aubree says that she wants to do facials when she’s older too.

Aubree has her first tee-ball game and Chelsea hopes that Adam will show up because Aubree was upset that her dad missed the whole last game. Taylor goes to the salon to get her hair done and talks to the stylist about Adam’s new girlfriend. Taylor says that she understands how Chelsea feels about things now that Adam’s brought another girl around their daughter.

Chelsea takes Aubree to her tee-ball game and lets her know that she thinks Adam is coming to the game. Randy takes lots of pictures and Chelsea thinks she’s going to cry because Aubree looks too cute. Chelsea says she doesn’t know if Adam will show up for the game or not, but eventually he shows up and he brings his new girlfriend too. Chelsea just kind of giggles all the time and it’s strange.

Aubree’s game finishes up and things are just super awkward the whole time. Aubree’s just too cute though, and she even gets on base once during her game. Aubree talks to her dad for a bit, but Jessica isn’t really involved in much of the scene and she doesn’t talk at all. Chelsea and her friend take bets on when Adam’s next girlfriend will be pregnant.

Leah:

Corey got papers for court stuff, and Leah’s been really stressed so she’s taking some time off. (I’m not sure what she’s taking time off of because I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have a job…) Leah gets a haircut and refers to it as “slutty” but Jeremy thinks it’s sexy. Jeremy says that Corey is a piece of shit because of the whole child support and wheelchair situation. Leah says she’s tried to have a friendship with him but that his actions have pushed her away completely. You can tell that Leah is really pissed about this whole situation.

Corey talks to his dad about Leah filing paperwork. His dad explains that Leah wants more money and medical authority. Corey says that he wants more custody and says that the kids would be better off at his house. He says that Ali’s therapy called and said that they hadn’t been taking her to therapy, so if she doesn’t keep going they’re going to stop seeing her and helping her out. Corey is pretty upset and realizes that there isn’t going to be a happy ending to this situation.

Jeremy and Leah meet Corey to pick up the girls and they decide to talk about the legal garb that’s going on. Leah says that the insurance has 30 days to make a decision and says that he’s doing the best that he can at the moment. Leah says he needs to make more of an effort and that he should just keep calling no matter what. Corey brings up the missed therapy appointments and says that Ali would be released from the program since she hadn’t been taking Ali to therapy. Leah says she feels like she’s being accused of things that she didn’t do, and Corey says that the reason co-parenting isn’t working because of Leah and Jeremy. Miranda says that none of them need to be best friends, but that they do need to get along for the girls. The scene ends by them all agreeing that they’ll just deal with it in court.

Leah gets into the car and gets angry about things because she’s the one that’s taken Ali to therapy for her whole life, but Corey hasn’t taken Ali to therapy ever. Leah says that Corey always throws her under the bus. Jeremy says that enough is enough and that Leah needs to be done taking crap from Corey because it’s not worth protecting him anymore.

Jenelle:

Jenelle has Jace for the weekend after her argument with her mom. Nathan thinks that Jace is emotionally traumatized by Barbara’s actions and asks Jace if Barbara yells at him a lot. Nathan suggests that Jenelle tries to get custody back and have it so they have Jace during the week and Barbara has Jace on weekends to try and even things out.

Jenelle talks to Nathan about things that happened earlier when Nathan asked Jace where he wanted to live. Nathan says that Jenelle is constantly asking for her mom’s approval, while Jenelle thinks that it’s more important to do things on her own time and figure things out that are more necessary right now. Jenelle says that Nathan should worry about his daughter, and that Jenelle will worry about her son. Jenelle leaves the house angry.

Jenelle takes Jace back to her mom’s house, and she’s mad that Nathan isn’t coming to help her set up for Kaiser’s baby shower. Jace says that he will help Jenelle set up for the baby shower and that if Nathan doesn’t want to go, that they can just go by themselves. It’s honestly really sad to see Jenelle crying in the car about it, but Jace sings a cute little song about how so many people make the world go around, and that kind of made the scene better for me.

Jenelle lets her mom know that Nathan isn’t going to come help set up for the baby shower. Barbara doesn’t even really know what to say, but suggests that Nathan seems like he’s on steroids or something. Barbara starts yelling at Jenelle about something, and Jenelle leave. Jace starts crying which is really sad, and Barbara threatens to cancel the shower if people don’t start figuring things out. Then Barbara is crying, and she’s just pissed off.

 

Quick summary:

– Everyone is mad or crying at some point in this episode.

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  1. Profile photo of Why do I watch this
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    Hello, I was a fellow everyday reader and have finally decided to join in the hilarious comments! Don’t be so cruel on my horrible grammar:P
    Janelle- So sad that jace is singing a song, I suppose to be in a happy place. Janelle driving crazy while 9 moths pregnant!! It’s absurd.
    Chelsea- The douche in the bro tank LMAO ! Perfect.
    Leah. Looks. Like. A. Crackhead.
    Kail- Joe and kail, well they were cute for 2 seconds and then it got awkward. Joe, it’s the Bahamas (I think) let Isaac go!!!! Father’s Day is a MAN MADE holiday. It can be celebrated at anytime.

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      Isaac is 4/5 a beach is a beach. Quite honestly the Bahamas are not that different from any other beach(yes I’ve been and stayed at the resorts on the water.) Jo and kail live very close to beaches. Jo could easily take him during his 6 weeks with Isaac. Jo also specifically asked for Father’s Day in the visitation agreement so it is obviously an important holiday to him. He felt bad about saying no but it was important to him and he didn’t want to start changing the visitation agreement.
      Like Jo said most kids, who grow up with one sibling that went somewhere they didn’t, honestly don’t care. Because of my age difference with my oldest brother he went places the rest of us different and I’ve gone places my brothers haven’t. We really could not care less.

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        i agree, the man made it a point to have his son on that day then he should have his son on that day. Kail tried it didnt work out and it almost felt like Jo was gonna give in to keep the peace between them then stood his ground and said i made it a point to ask to always have my son on fathers day.

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        I’ve been there and the beach is beautiful, but for God’s sake it’s Father’s Day. I’m sure they’ll get plenty more MTV paycheck trips (yes yes I know itw as scentsy) but let’s face it she wouldn’t be selling jack shit with out the MTV $$$. Either way it’s ridiculous for a boy not to be with his dad on that day. She’d flip out if it were the other way around. Yea my fam goes places with my sister without me all the timea nd I don’t mind at all.

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      I have a different take on it. If Kailyn was wanting Isaac to go on vacation with her, why did she plan her vacation for Father’s Day? She knew what day it was and planned it anyway, without asking for Jo’s thoughts until after the thing was planned. Of all the days she could have, why did she choose to go on Father’s Day? She could have planned her vacation any other time.

      I realize that Father’s Day is a made-up holiday (like all the rest of them), but Jo and Isaac’s situation is maybe a bit different than most father & sons. Jo does not get to see his son every day, so maybe he wants to have a tradition of keeping Father’s Day as a special holiday for the two of them.

      OR . . .

      Put the shoe on the other foot. Do you think that Kailyn would be so casual about these kinds of holidays if Jo were asking to have Isaac on Mother’s Day? I can’t really see her not flipping out on Jo if he planned a vacation for Isaac on Mother’s Day.

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    Jace singing in the car made me so sad.

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      I laughed at him singing about Rainbows(Endless Rainbow) and then I abruptly stopped once I realized how sad it was.

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        Did you see that tweet between JE and some fan well hater of hers. Anyways she had Emery on her lap and they were talking about how Emery was zoned out and someone goes maybe she’s trying to go to the land of endless rainbows and they said it to make fun of her but JE didn’t get it and she replied with maybe and a smiley face… it was really funny and everyone was laughing at her for it for a while… I didn’t know out wad a song until I heard Jace singing it today.

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        It’s a song commonly taught in preschools. I love that song haha.

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        That tweet about Emery crossing the bridge to the endless rainbow was because she calls Nathan her endless rainbow but she was too dumb to realise that she’s the laughing stock of twitter

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        OMG Legses, your name!!! It’s awesome 😀

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        hi, first time poster here! i heard Jace singing that and my heart broke and I crawled to my computer in complete emotional agony and made this my username as quickly as my trembling fingertips would allow. and Jenelle, don’t b*tch about your problems to your 4 year old son. he doesn’t really need to hear how mean Nathan is to you. I am not surprised that the human being with the most logical reasoning during that little bit was Jace when he said something like, “your choice.”

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        Jace singing reminded me of horror movies. When a character is so terrified of what they are seeing, they sing a song to try to comfort themselves. Imagine how terrifying it is to see all the adults in your life losing it. How can his little heart ever feel safe or secure? Kids always think they are the cause of adults fighting. Everywhere he goes, adults fight. He must think he is to blame. Just in case he starts to feel good, they scream at him WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!! It is abusive, pure and simple.

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        yeah jenelle made me so sick this episode, especially when her and nathan were “talking” about getting custody of jace and shes like oh well first i have to worry about having kiaser, then school, then getting a new house, then the arguing…wtf what the hell kind of parent has an entire list of shit that they want to take care of before they take care of their kid, then spouts the list off in front of their kid…what a pos…then that stupid baby shower that her and nathan are throwing for themselves, wtf is that?? then force it all on babs to not only take care of your kid but set up and host a baby shower for you and your sorry ass riod raging no job having loser moocher boyfriend…if i was babs i woulda told jennelle to shove her shower up her ass, poured myself a glass of wine and spent the rest of the day playing with jace in the back yard…..wtf is wrong with these people for real??

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        thats exactly what i was saying who the hell has the luxury of saying wait i cant be a mom to u yet cause i have so much shit to get done first!

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        chickenfriedcheetos (Great name, BTW)-

        I no longer watch the show and only follow it on this site. I did see some photos of the baby shower, but it looked like only Jenelle and Nathan were at the party. I assumed that there were other people there, but could not tell. did they show the shower on the show? If so, how many people were there besides Jenelle and Nathan (and probably Babs)?

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        they didnt show the shower so im not sure who was there, but im sure it was nathen, jenelle, jace, babs, and some random people that mtv paid so that it looks like nathen an jenelle have some friends… i wonder if anyone gave them some little onesies with cut-off sleeves so little whoopsie-doo can be just like big whoopsie-doo

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      Jace was sooooo heartbreaking this entire episode. I seriously don’t understand how Jenelle could cry over Nathan when her son wants to love her. But she gets upset he calls Babs mom?! Smh.

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        OMG yes!! Exactly what I thought. But that just shows how much more dick matters than your kids. I have essentially the same situation Jace has growing up and it pisses me off that she is telling him to call her mom. Where were you jenelle when Jace was a baby and needed love and comfort, to read bedtime stories and tuck in bed. Oh that’s right you were chasing assholes hoping for love when in fact you have the best love sitting at home wondering why mommy doesn’t love him enough to stay.

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        I could NOT agree more with everything you just said. Too many single mothers put more priority and energy on chasing dick when their child will always love them (and accept their love) in earnest and who needs them the most. I mean if they meet someone and get to know them properly and stuff, yeah. I’m by no means saying that single mothers can’t or shouldn’t date, just have to be so careful when you have a child involved

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        oh yes i understand dick being more important than your kids…. My dad was so in love with any pussy he could find he would literately put me and my two sisters in foster care for MONTHS at a time and come get us once his pussy of the month was gone and keep us until he found more pussy. and even if we did get to stay with him, my step moms were always bitches and treated us like dirt. my first step mom (i was about 5, my sisters were 2 and 6) made us sleep in the shed… not lights, no bathroom, no electricity.. But he didn’t care as long as he was getting some pussy… I would sometimes cry and cry at kindergarten because I was “sick” because i wanted my daddy to come pick me up so i could see him. (im tearing up as im writing this because the pain is real and it HURTS) Believe me i STILL have resentment towards him and I am now 22…

        Oh and in case your wondering about my Bio Mom. CPS took us away from her when i was 4. Haven’t seen or spoken to her since. ha she couldn’t kick her drug/alcohol habit!

        Don’t worry though. I’m a great mom to my 4 year old. who will be 5 on the 26th. believe me I’ve cried plenty while planning her party:( ha I put my daughter before anything and everyone. She is in soccer and dance, has tons of little friends who are always coming over or shes going to there house. although, honestly, i love when they are at my house, so i can keep an eye on my daughter (I’m VERY protective).

        RANT OVER! (sorry i can just really relate to jace)

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        Kayyy, I’m so sorry for what you went through with your parents, that’s terrible! I know how powerful it can be when you go something hard, and then you watch someone else go through it. Even though you’re past it, you know exactly the long hard road ahead of Jace, and it’s so completely unfair that innocent kids get stuck in that vicious cycle with parents who don’t give a crap. I’m glad to hear you’re doing well, and that you are able to give your daughter the wonderful childhood that she deserves!

      • Profile photo of kayyy
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        Thats Really sweet thanks 🙂

        p.s. Idk what the thumbs down was for…

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        Kayy it is heart warming to hear you became a stronger person cause of it. So sorry for what u went through but you sound like a great mom 🙂

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        You can’t take it personally, Kayyy. The Thumbs Down Goblin sometimes gets way too excited with itself and starts downvoting things that aren’t remotely offensive to anyone.

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        Well Kayyy I’m right there with you, I had it pretty fucked up as well. There are those people in this world that put trivial shit in front of the most important things in life. They won’t notice till it’s too late that they fucked up. Also I know that because I went through what I did that I never in my whole life want my kids to feel even close to how I felt. I’m sure you understand the most when I say I have absolutely no idea how anyone could be so selfish. When I look at my children there’s no way in hell I could do what was happened to me. It’s disgusting.

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        Kayyy…your story made me want to cry. I am so very sorry that you had to survive that. I have a son your age. I used to treasure tucking him in at night. He’d have a blast playing in the tub and I would pause to smell his freshly washed curls after his bath. I would tuck him in all snug in his Disney sheets and read him endless Dr Seus books. I remember watching him sleeping and reminding myself to take it all in, be grateful and thanked God for him. I felt so lucky, I still do. I could not have anymore children but I feel so blessed to have been a mom at all.

        To think of you being the same age, as my son, and being neglected is horrific. Sleeping in a shed and feeling scared and unloved. It pisses me the hell off. I wish I could have scooped you up and raised you with the love you deserved. Please remember honey, just because you did not receive love as a child, does not mean YOU were unlovable. You were a blessing, a godsend and innocent. Your parents had the problem, not you. I hope you never blame yourself for their ignorance and stupidity.
        I am impressed and humbled by the fact you are so wise at 22. You have looked back and gained strength to move forward. You sound like an amazing person and a great mom. Good for you! You should be so proud of yourself. If you never heard all of this praise from your parents, then you are going to hear it from me! Your daughter is so blessed to have a loving mommy. I send you a cyber hug.

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        @newday

        I literately cried while reading you comment! your so sweet. thank you! 🙂

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        kayyy-

        Oh my God, that is a horrible story. That is like the stories that occasionally surface where kids are kept in cages or locked rooms. How old are you now? In many states, there is a “discovery rule” t the statute of limitations on child abuse, meaning that after you attain the age of majority, the clock starts running, and a victim may be able to have charges brought against a abuser many years after the crime had been committed. It sounds like your dad should be locked up.

        I am so glad you are okay. Are your sisters okay, too? That kind of child abuse tends to get passed on down the line. The abused becomes the abuser. It is just wonderful that you have broken that string and used your bad experiences to learn how not to treat a child. I am not the type to be all emotional about hearing bad stories, but I am thinking that yours will stick with me for a while. I have the opportunity to take a class offered by the local bar to be a Guardian ad Litem (represent children and their interests in court disputes between parents to ensure that their interests are not ignored in the proceedings). The class is being offered again, and I was going to decline to take it (as I always do), but I think I have to take it after hearing your horrible story. I would feel pretty guilty if I did not take it now.

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        That was such a burn. Barb isn’t really my fave right now, since she completely dropped the ball tonight by not comforting him, but I have to believe that she usually does to some degree, because he obviously loves her and is more comfortable with her.

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        I agree that she did but I’m sure she comforts him. seeing how upset she was as well probably had her head all over. I know if I was 9 months pendant and sped off like that my mother’s mind would be all over the place.

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        I think Barb just had to many messes to clean up and was flustered. Either way it’s sad for the child caught in the middle.

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        Yes I agree. I wish she had hugged Jace too. You could tell that Babs was just so frustrated! She tries so hard to make things work with Jenelle, but it’s such an uphill battle to just have even a civil conversation with her. I want to say to Babs, Jenelle & Gaythan two things. Stop putting Jace in the middle of adult situations and stop putting making him feel bad about things which he has no control over!! Jenelle’s beef was with Gaythan. To drag poor Jace into being her shoulder to cry on was unconscionable.

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        MTV doesn’t show everything. Maybe she comforted him that night and talked to him. We’ll never know

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        Babs did maybe. Not Jenelle. Jenelle probably ran back to roid rage fruitcake and begged her to love her because she’s that pathetic. Lol she just left Jace at Babs’s house god damn piece of shit bitch. Ugh sorry I’m so mad.

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        wanna know what pissed me off the most, shes always complaining abt how she wants Jace back but the min that convo comes up its ohh i have school the house the new baby. um news flash ppl have to deal with these things and their kids everyone doesnt have mom to pick up their slack, and stop playing with this kids feelings. even Jace is smart enough to say um no id rather be with my crazy grandma during the week then u two nut jobs

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        Yeah I was desperate for someone to cuddle him 🙁 I watched a sneak peek clip though and it’s really sweet. He helps her with the table and she praises and thanks him, he is actually very polite and says ‘welcome!’. And he hands her the decorations to put up. So I felt a bit better. But how often does he get ignored when he is so sad?

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        And now Juhnelle is on FB trying to justify her leaving him with “In rehab they teach you to work away from arguements and come back later when the situation is calmer” Fuck off bitch. You’ve been abandoning that boy since birth and screeching out of Babs driveway since you could drive. Shit up Juhnelle.

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        “Walk away” from arguements even ;p

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        Lol I wish we could thumbs up like at least five times cause I swear you are frickin awesome:) Anyway she is such a bitch, instead of trying to cover your ass why not you say “I shouldn’t have reacted like that at all but I was very overwhelmed” lol stupid bitch. Also really?!??!??!!! First off you could have sat in the car or even drove down the block until you calmed down, second your not walking out on your mom you are walking out on your “son”. I’m sure at the moment Babs was really fucking sad but guess what she’s an adult, she can later realize & comprehend what happened. But a child doesn’t have those skills yet, they aren’t gonna be thinking oh mom (let’s get real sister) was really sad and that’s why she left. Not cause she doesn’t love me. So in fact you just caused the billionth fucked up memory Jace will have of you as a child.

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        Even if she had still stormed off, how hard would it have been for her to say, “hey buddy, I’m gonna go take a drive to cool off real quick, but I’ll be back in a little bit. Stay here with Meme for a bit”? They wouldn’t have discouraged that approach in rehab.

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        I wonder why Babs feels such a need to take grandchildren away from their moms. I think she feels guilty for not raising her own kids right.

        Very weird that Babs gets another chance to f*** up, I mean raise more children.
        I can imagine that Jenelle feels like she can’t winn anyway when CPS is making these weird moves.

        Jelling at Jace, jelling at Jenelle, spanking and discuss and fight about god knows what with Jace present is not really raising right.
        Why is Mike back in the picture by the way, didn’t he take of with a Hooters-girl??

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        For real though you think these bitc, I mean young women come on here and just troll. I’ve been on this site basically since it’s been a website and seriously this shit is poppin! Lol this is the only teen mom website I come on so I’m not sure how popular the others are but idk in my opinion this is the best site. Seriously 700 something comments that’s nuts! And hard to read haha I’m scrolling for days!

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        Yes! The way he leaned on Barbra when she was on the phone, just tells you that baby wants to be held/ loved.

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        yeah like forreal, babs home may not be the best home for him but thats the only home he knows dont ruin the only semi stable household he has. atleast juhnelle was smart enough to ask Jace alone if thats what he wants and im glad he was comfy enough to say how he really felt

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        I was actually leaning in to pick-pocket the keys to her Honda CRV. I wonder what Aubree is up to….maybe I can crash at her place for a while or if her Papa will adopt me. I’d actually get dental care there! That’s a bonus.

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        I felt so bad for Jace! Barbs and Jenelle yell so much around him, that he has to sing songs to create a “happy place.”

        Chelsea describing Adam as the “douche in the bro tank” was hilarious! Adams new GF looks like an OLD fool… Literally. Why can’t Adam ever just be single for once? It seems like he always has some new chick around his kids.

        Leah- That whole situation is ridiculous. I want to side with Corey on this one, but I’ll just say “no comment” for now. But, I will say that Miranda and Jeremy should take the backseat on this. Neither one of them should be butting in to any augment and putting in their 2 cents. They are each the spouses of Leah and Corey, but at the end of the day, Ali & Aleeah are Corey and Leah’s kids. Whatever decisions that are made need to be made by the two of them, not the step parents. To an extent, they should only be involved by being there to support their spouse, not adding in opinions.

        Kailyn- I’m so proud of how far she’s come! She doesn’t seem to want any more drama or issues with Jo. She must have had some sort of an epiphany. But whatever the case, I’m glad things have seemed to change.

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        *my bad! I meant to say that Jenelle and Babs yell around him a lot. I hate that he had to sing to be in a “happy place.” I’m glad he told Jenelle that he was more comfortable staying with his grandma. Babs may yell a lot, but at least she gives a damn about Jace and provides some sort of stability for him.

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        Agreed about Jace and what you said about Jeremy and Miranda taking a backseat. I never understood why step parents want so badly to take over the parent role. You can see the difference in the way Jeremy and Miranda act, and then wonder why the girls want to go with daddy when Leah picks them up.

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      seriously he has nobody who actually cares about him, its really sad.

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        How terrible that babs didn’t even give jace a hug when he was bawling.

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        I almost cried when Jace sd Ill help u & she blew him off. He was ok its ur choice. This was so the “somebody needs to love this kid” episode

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        I was so sad, I hope to God a camera man gave that kid a pep talk or something. Out of all the babies ever born on this show, I would say he should have been one of the prime candidates for adoption. Some wonderful couple out there would have loved to raise him right and give him the love he deserves instead of treating him like nothing more than a burden and a photo op like his “family” does.

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        Seriously I feel so fucking bad for Jace. His current living situation isn’t ideal and neither is the alternative. He’s just a kid for fuck sakes.

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        It’s sad when perfect strangers on a blog care more about her kid than she does

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        Did anyone notice after Jenelle told Nathan that Jace didnt want to make Nathan mad that poor Jace started babbling and looking at Nathan?
        That look is the same look my daughter(or really most toddlers) gives me when she does something she isn’t suppose to be doing. He was judging Nathan’s reaction to what Jenelle was saying. That poor little boy was probably hoping that Nathan wasnt going to start screaming at him.

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        Nathan scares the crap out of that poor kid. He thought he was capable of killing his mother. I noticed the babbling, and I also noticed that when he’s around Nathan, he barely speaks. When he was with just Jenelle, he actually got a few words in edgewise.

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        Yeah I noticed that. I wanted to hug poor Jace so many times in this episode! This was one of the worst in a while. He just wanted mommy to love him. 🙁

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        I would not doubt Babs is right and fucktards on steroids. My bro in law was on that shit and same exact thing! So that’s exactly what was with Jace its a, I can’t say this in front of mommies 15th boyfriend because if i do I’ll be hangin from the door as he beats my “mommy?” Sisters ass, situation.

        That fool is so disgusting it literally has me tongue tied as to what to call him! Because douche doesn’t cover this, idk thing. Jenelle is by no means my favorite person but I cannot stand this ass, fucktard, dingle berry lickin, wanna be pro something dickwad that clearly has got his head banged a few by other people who think that he’s a spawn of the dumbass version of satan.

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        This is so wrong but all I thought of when I read the end of your comment is “Hey! Stop insulting Satan!!” How horrible am I for that?

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        Kids have instincts like animals especially abused and neglected ones. Jace is afraid of Nathan and knowsbthatbhe has to watch and tread lightly. I don’t know how to articulate how scary and dangerous the way this man seems wity both that boy and Jenelle, but Janelle can leave, Jace is getting trapped. I think Barbra also feels it but is concerned Janelle will use and mess up that unborn baby so she stuffed those instincts to deal with the immediate crisis. Nathan is so scary – like a very stupid sociopath which doesn’t really fit he profile- so way scarier!!!

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        In the bonus clip babs asks Jace what he thinks of Nathan and he says he doesnt like him because he’s mean. The truth comes out!

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        Jace will HATE Jenelle when he’s older. He can romanticize His upbringing or rationalize Jenelle’s actions because it’s all on tape for him and the world to see.

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        Cant*

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        This is so,so,so true. Oh my. How sad.

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        and i hope he does. his face when he started crying made me so sad.hes so darn cute i just want to save him and they wondered during last weeks episode why he acts out look at his role models. poor little boy. jenelle makes me hate her more and more i have a son jaces age and i couldnt imagine ignoring him or treating him the way she does to jace. she does not deserve to ever get custody in my opinion.

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      Me too. I legit teared up. I think this is the first episode where I’ve ever felt genuinely sad for everyone in Jenelle’s segment (except Nathan). She looked like she was actually really hurt and Jace broke my heart. Even though I wish Babs wouldn’t yell her crying got to me too because I know she’s upset for Jenelle and Jace. I also really wish everyone would stop talking about Jace and where he should live and about his behavior RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. He is five years old now, he can understand you!

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        Babs reminded me of my mom, she never cries but when she does you know she’s really upset/disappointed. But it upset me even more to see Jace crying and her not comforting him. That’s really what he needs if this is how all the “adults” in his life are gonna act. Someone to hold him and tell him I love you more than anything.

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        Exactly. Everyone was talking about him and everyone was upset but no one talked TO him or hugged him or played with him. I wish we could start a GoFundMe to build a time machine and go back in time and have Jace adopted by someone else.

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        “I think this is the first episode where I’ve ever felt genuinely sad for everyone in Jenelle’s segment (except Nathan)”

        Took the words right out of my mouth. I was honestly just feeling down and sad at the end of it all.

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        Gaythan should just leave them all in peace.

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        how is Gaythan all of a sudden parent of the year with all the advise in the world on how Juhnelle should handle Jace yet he hasnt gotten a grip on his own situation with his daughter! i was proud when Juhnelle told him to worry abt his and she will worry abt hers

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        I felt bad for Jenelle also, until she drove off on her poor mom.

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        I never ever feel bad for Jenelle.

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        I do NOT feel bad for Jenelle. This dumb whore got pregnant with a douche nozzle so quick and didn’t even think about it or worry about getting custody of her “son” who doesn’t even call her mom because she’s not around enough. Lol that bloated bitch gets everything that’s coming to her. I only feel bad for Jace. Nathan can go fuck himself, I feel a little bad for Barbara but seriously she needs to quit yelling in front of Jace (as much as I love her).

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        So what is Jace calling her then?

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        Hahaha he was talking about how he his mom (babs) has ice cream sandwiches and Jenelle was like PLEASE CALL HER MEME he was like why? BECAUSE I’M YOUR MOM all while crying over Gaythan.

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        Yeah but what does he call Jenelle when he’s with her? I haven’t seen him call her anything now that I think about it. Act like a mom and he will call you that you dumb cunt.

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        Part time big sister maybe? No idea what he calls her. Never seen him call her mom.

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        I thought it was kinda funny when Jenelle told him not to call Babs “mom” to call her “may-may” and then explained that Babs wasn’t his mom, that she was. Then Jace looked at the seat and whispered “mom”..probably thinking to himself, “uh, I’m still calling her mom”…that poor kid. I seriously want to go get him now and adopt his little butt just to show him what a family can be like and to hug him. 🙁

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        I really don’t get why, when Janelle and Babs first start the yelling, Jace is crying and Babs says ” what’s the matter? What are you crying for? She seems to have no clue the kid is freaked out about the fight and possibly the fact Shit Bag Nathan and the shower are the focus and where he is and stands rather than his feelings and all he wants is his mommy to notice him and be a big boy a love her like no one else seems to. I broke my heart. Nathan is toxic and needs to be put down like a disease.

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      Also, when jenelle said “worry about your own kid and I’ll worry about my son” I found it quite hypocritical. Because for one, she doesn’t worry about him. Than again I did find a sigh of relief that she finally is seeing the bigger picture.

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      He was singing as a coping mechanism, and of course Jenelle didn’t even speak to him she just ignored his singing and continued crying and rambling over how mean Nathan is towards her. And in usual Jenelle fashion she storms off and leaves Jace to cry in the house without his mom.

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        You know who else everyone is mean to, and gets yelled at all the time? Jace. But instead of crying, since he knows no one will comfort him or give a crap, he just sings his sad rainbow song.

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        goddammit that fucking rainbow song was so tragic. That scene could have been in an actual movie script.

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        OR beats up on kids or breaks toys and gets yelled at for negative attention. I do not think Babas was mother of the year by any means, but I think Janelle looked for trouble and had some personality disorder beyond just being a very hard to handle brat. It’s too easy o blame bad parenting on how kids turn out when what some of Hesse parents do – yell, don’t nurture, smoke , drink, stick kids in front of tv, spank, etc is basically parenting in the ’50’s and no father was pretty common in the late forties- not saying it good or right, but Janelle, Amber- it’s not just from the parenting and lake of a father alone. They have some mental disorders. Leah- Mom made excuses and continues to and she’s on drugs and she’s trash.

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        Very true, his behavior is a huge problem and it’s not fair to other kids. I would be extremely unhappy if I was a parent of a kid in his class. But at this age, it’s not his fault. This kid has been through some shit. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jace had some kind of mental health issue that manifests itself later on, just based on genetics. But at this point, he is entirely the product of his environment. He should have been given up for adoption from day one.

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        Poor little guy is singing about rainbows. He’s probably assuming there is a pot of shit at the end of the rainbow. He thinks this to avoid the utter disappointment he has felt his whole life. He cannot dream of a ‘pot of gold’ because his dreams get crushed, as does his heart.

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        Ugh the singing scene killed me. I tend to dwell on these kinds of things that involve kids. When I see things on the bews about kids or anything bad. He needs someone. He needs someone so bad. I want to go grab my kids and take them to my bed and hug them all night.

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        I totally hugged my cat LOL

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        I have never in all my life felt so bad for Jace. It was so horrible, I can’t believe that CPS can’t or hasn’t already stepped in to find him somewhere that is actually suitable. The reason I think Babs is not suitable is because she is letting Jenelle and that psycho steroid crazed freak Nathan around him unsupervised. Those two should not be allowed to be around Jace without being supervised by a responsible adult. IMO, Nathan is abusive to Jenelle AND Jace. This was the first episode in a long time where I saw remnants of the old Jenelle “How about you worry about your child and I’ll worry about mine” and it seemed like had the cameras not been there, Nathan’s reaction would have been more violent – whether physical or verbal – who knows. There is something extremely frightening about the way Jace reacts to Nathan, and that is what really solidifies my belief that he’s abusive (even if it’s only verbally). Jace seems terrified of him, and considering this is just Jenelle’s lazy deadbeat boyfriend that he does NOT live with, why would he be scared of him unless he was abusive in some way? He is such a disgusting hypocrite. Honestly he is by far the worst piece of shit on the whole show, with Jenelle trailing only VERY narrowly behind and really they are equal, as Jenelle’s superficial moron ass allows this freak around her son.

        I can’t believe she is so selfish to just ignore Jace the way she does, and then run out on him because Nathan is, as usual, being a colossal douche. The poor kid has no one. He needs a real family. Barbara needs to look into adoption. Closed adoption.

        So anyone notice how Leah and Jeremy get in the car, and Leah’s like “do you think it was okay that I cursed at them?” then they both proceed to lay out a string of expletives right in front of the two girls without batting an eyelash? Um..why is it more important for you to hold your composure with your ex and not curse at him than it is to not say fuck 12 times in front of your two toddlers? Odd.

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        I may get thumbed down to hell and back, but I have to say that I do not think Babs is a suitable parent for Jace. Yes, she took him in when Jenelle wouldn’t step up to the plate, and that was nice, saving him from foster care. But honestly, who here really believes he is better off now than if he ended up with another family? I sure don’t.

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        I HATE admitting this but I slightly agreed with Nathan when he said she was too old to play with him (not in those words) but she is an older woman and loses her patience easily. It would be great if someone responsible and with more energy would raise him but Nathan and Jenelle or not responsible so that leaves Babs who probably has no energy. Poor woman deserves to retire and not having to raise her kids mistake babies (gabriel too). I think she’ll keep Jace safe away from shitty boyfriends unlike Jenelle but dI agreed with Nathan when he said she doesn’t have the energy to really raise him.

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        Farrah’s Neck Mole — I totally get what you’re saying. I think Barb is funny but she did raise Jenelle which speaks for itself, and then also I’ve not been impressed at all with how she’s handling Jace and his behavior this season.

        For the longest time I thought Jenelle was spending more time with Jace because her mom was caving into her demands, but from this season, it seems to be more that she is just sick of being with Jace so she’s letting Jenelle around him to take the pressure off of her (not that it should be her responsibility but Jenelle is NOT capable of being a good parent..I firmly believe that she is not.) Even though I agree with you that Barb is definitely not ideal to be caring for Jace (I think he needs a whole new family and a closed adoption), I think the biggest reason that she’s not is because she continues to let Jenelle and by association Nathan be around him. Nathan seems deeply disturbed and like a ticking time bomb. I get that people get upset and yell, but there’s something evil about him when he gets mad that children shouldn’t be exposed to, and it’s irresponsible for Barb to allow him and selfish Jenelle around Jace.

        Tyler’s Trap Baby – Yeah that is a good point, but everything else he said was absurd…like that Jenelle needs to take Barb to court now for custody of Jace. My God..the poor boy has suffered enough. Putting him in a home alone with those two psychos..I cannot imagine anything worse for him. So even though his point about Barbara being too old is valid, the rest of his points especially that Jenelle should be taking Barbara to court to get custody back RIGHT NOW negate everything else he said.

        Jace really needs to go to a new family. I know it would be really hard on him now because he knows those people, but there’s just nothing good about the toxic situation he’s in. He doesn’t deserve to have to be Jenelle’s little brother whose forced to call her “mom” when she’s never resembled anything near a mother and shoulder to cry on, Nathan’s newest conquest for domination of Barb, and Barbara’s burden..he deserves so much better than any of the three of them will give him.

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      THat was the cutest and saddest thing in the world. I put my foot in my mouth for saying he is delayed because he was so smart to say “I’ll help you decorate” “We can do it by ourselves.” God he’s more of an adult than ugly cry face jenelle. can you save your bullshit for when your son isn’t the car and actually pretend he gives you joy? piece of shit bitch.

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        Ohhhh he offered to help? Poor kid. Clearly he doesn’t like to see Jenelle (I can’t say “his mom”) sad and he just wants to be accepted and loved by her. What a giant cunt she is. I wonder if she ever watches any of this and sees her wrong doings? Clearly not, cause nothing changes with her. But MAYBE now that she seems medicated and slightly more sound of mind, she can watch and learn. Thinking like that is the only way I can accept this poor little boys sadness.
        I wonder if Kail, Leah and Chelsea sit and watch and just think what a cunt she is.

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        Leah was quite cunty this episode

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        I still think Jace is emotionally delayed due to neglect. But you’re right, he certainly is intelligent. He knew enough to use that rainbow song as a form of self-soothing.

        And then he said something like “you don’t want to do it with me?” (decorate for the party) and bitch fucking HESITATED for a second. I’m like you have to think about that answer?! My god.

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        Jenelle this is the definition of a mom. If you see this description as fitting you, then ask your son to call you mom. Otherwise leave HIM allllllooone!

        Mom: Woman who chooses to put her child ahead of her needs for the rest of her life. Ready to give, love, heal, inspire, discipline, teach this child. Never has a day off and almost never wants one. Cannot wait to see her child and scoop him up in her arms to love him. Hugs freely, praises often, nurses child when sick. Dries tears, kisses boo-boos. Puts her own needs second. Would DIE to save her child. When mom is suffering unspeakable pain she fights to LIVE for her child. She stays up with a sick child night after night, even when vomiting herself. She helps with homework and makes nutritious meals. She takes him to activities all week, even when she is tired.
        When mom is near tears, she smiles, so her child does not know. Mothers comfort and give until exhausted and then give some more. They cry for every amazing and every heart-breaking thing that happens to their child. Moms praise, encourage, lift and bring joy to their child. They make costumes, help in school, read endless stories, carpool and work as well.
        Moms do it all with gratitude and feel blessed beyond words to be a MOM. They protect their child from all harm and from anyone that would cause pain to their baby. You know you are a good mom when your CHILD grows up and says ‘mommy here is what I think a mommy is’ and then says every word in this definition is HIS MOMMY/YOU.

        Jenelle, so do you really think he should be calling you mommy? I wouldn’t recommend you take a vote.

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        Oh my gosh, 1000 thumbs up! This made me well up, and reminded me what a wonderful mother I have, and I hope that when I have kids, I can be just like her (and you!).

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        I love this! Agree 100%…. Except for the “never takes a break and almost never wants one.” Sometimes, I do(and most other moms) need a little break. Being a parent can be overwhelming, nothing wrong with mommy getting a few hours to herself. But either way, Jenelle has taken a 4-5 year break to herself. Her kid doesn’t even live with her. Smh…..

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        This definition also applies to a father!

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        You nailed it Newday.

        First time comment maker (Newday you’re the lucky winner) Looong time reader.

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      Heartbreaking right? Here this kid is trying to comfort someone who he clearly doesn’t see as his mother (and then is chastised for it later). What does that inept shit do? Ignores him and continues to text and cry over her steroid worthless to society boyfriend.

      Seriously, I hope Jace is put in some sort of therapy. The yelling, crying, violence, slamming of doors and drug use he’s been exposed to is terrible.

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        He no doubt needs therapy! Jace would benefit from it soo much! Not only because he would be getting positive attention but also because he could learn to cope as he gets older and possibly learn which behaviors are acceptable.

        Really now that I think of it all the kids featured on these shows for a long period of time should be required to go to so many therapy sessions. Having the cameras on them since birth has had to take a toll on them. I wonder if at one point they thought everyone else in the world had cameras following them around? Lol

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        And MTV should pay for it and it should NOT be Dr. drew!

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        As a counselor I’d do it but I feel like I know these kids too damn much to be an impartial party. I’d just take Jace home because I know sending him home isn’t in his best interest.

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        i was thinking the same thing, especially with jace, and i think babs should also look into a program like big brothers or somethign like that so that jace can have a good male role model in his life besides nathan with his little pms bitch fits all the time, also it would probly do a world of good for jace to have some time with someone where its all about him and he can feel like hes important and matters too.

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      Don’t be sad. One day I will be fine. Ether fine, a serial killer or I will be too damaged and crazy from my environment to even realize how damaged and crazy I am.

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      Please correct me if i’m wrong cause i didn’t really get the fight. Basically gaythan wants jenelle to get jace back asap because he thinks babs is crazy, but jenelle wants to worry about the roll, school, other shit????

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        I think she said that about all the other things so that Nathan wouldn’t know the real reason, which is she doesn’t want Jace to be raised by Nathan. She is so freaking scared of him it isn’t funny. That girl is a total mess but I am not sure how she is going to get out of this situation. Nathan is one scary dude.
        I cried watching him sing that rainbow song.

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    NATHAN. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST TANGENT OF STUPID I HAVE EVER WITNESSED. AND PLEASE TAKE OFF THAT CUBS HAT.

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    Jace trying to tell Jenelle he would help & her just seeming to blow him off was painful to watch.
    Leah is a straight up bitch, she probably doesnt remember the therapy apts she missed. Its all about the pipe!
    Kait is acting like an adult, being separated from ur childs parent means sometimes you dont have them u would like & Javi is an ass.

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      Jenelle talks big about asking Jace’s feelings but when he straight up tells her she’s too busy thinking about her bf to care. Awful. I wish I could hug him.

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        Right? “I actually talk to my son rationally about how he feels.” No you don’t, whore, you whine to him about how you feel and ignore him.

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        My sister was in the room and she goes is that mother really crying to her 5 year old about her problems. I was like oh that’s not the mother that’s the sister…

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        He’s a small child..not a therapist. He has a degree in coloring..not therapy. STFU and treat him like a “Son”. Oh wait..he’s only your “Son” when arguing with Barbara.

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        she’s all talk and she’s just a piece of shit. Always will be. I seriously hope she dies, I’m sorry. Jace would be better off.

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        I love how you hate like I do! It’s irrational and the reason for this place! I believe Jenelle is mentally ill and an idiot. I believe Leah is a spoiled, snotty, white trash gold digging bitch who found comfort in a local drug culture who thinks she can sleep her way to a mansion with Naugahyde and early American furniture and bitch at how no one supports her!

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        LOL I know she brings out my hatred! My God…she’s just such a fucking waste of air. Some guy tweeted her “Jenelle, kill yourself” and I honestly died laughing. I seriously can’t think of anyone I wish death on (and I don’t actually wish death on her) but she’s just such a fucking waste…she’ll never change. Dicks will always come before her kids. She’s going to populate this earth with more future criminals (sorry Jace and Kaiser) and when the TM $$$ runs out and something happens to babs those kids will be so fucked….it scares me to think about it. It probably scares me to think about it more than her, she’s just scared of being single, not scared about the welfare of her kids. Her and Casey Anthony should be bffs.

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      I really which javi would first remember that this could be him one day and second think how he would feel if it were his son going away. Yea it sucks he’s gonna miss a really cool vacation but there will no doubt be more and if Jo feels like this is an experience he wants to have with his kid than fuck it!
      I think Kail handled it very well. Just like Vee said how would she feel if it were Mother’s Day. But I think she probably thought of that and realized it would be a stupid fight and let it go.

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        lets get into this a bit! i have thus far liked Kail in these last few episodes thinking she is maturing, however she was well aware of that custody agreement and knew that Joe particularly made it a point to always have his son on Fathers Day. so why on gods green earth would this asshole plan a family vacay that landed on fathers day?!? its almost like she does it on purpose she is always scheduling something during his week or trying to switch up a week with him or something its a bit out of hand. and Javi needs to take a chill pill cause as PERCOCET & PONIES has mentioned this will be you one day buddy begging to see ur son on Fathers Day. BUT i do agree she has to pick and choose her battles and im glad that this was not one that she wants to pick. however i dont agree how she tried to down play his cook out its his day and how he wants to spend it is his business

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        Kail got the trip as a Scentsy-reward or whatever. It was basically a convention for Scentsy top sellers in the Bahamas, with the option to add family members. So the date couldn’t be changed. I’m not defending Kailyn, just saying that the date was not her choice.

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        She handled it well. She didn’t freak out or keep bothering Jo. She just asked. There’s nothing wrong with asking.

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      Leah actually expects us to believe the therapy office resorted to calling Cory over her only missing two therapy appointments (one that she claims she had a doctor’s note from)? Please. They wouldn’t have contacted Cory at all unless they tried getting ahold of Leah and she wasn’t responding. Then Jeremy and Leah want to talk shit about Cory in the car in front of the girls to the point where Aleeah just wants to leave and go back home with Cory. Notice Leah was so excited to confront Cory but once he dropped the bomb of her not taking Ali to therapy on camera she ran away with her tail between her legs crying. I thought it was interested Jeff asked Cory if he wanted to see the girls more than his usual Friday through Monday. Didn’t Leah last episode try to claim that he only sees the girls once a week? Caught in another lie again. Next episode Leah seems pretty worried about Cory filing for full custody of the girlses. Leah, if you didn’t have any dirty laundry you’d have nothing to worry about…

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        And how her faithful minion and co-druggie Juuuurmy was going on about how she has taken Ali to all of her therapy appointments for her whole life. Um, she’s a stay at home mom. Corey works full time, so Leah can waste the child support on her fugly hair. Since most therapy places are open during business hours, who does it logically make more sense to take her? Corey, obviously so Leah can get a fix at 10:30 am.

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        DUDE he does seem like he’s on shit! I thought he would never do that but it was like watching two druggies tonight holy shit…

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        Look how she frowns and shifted her eyes and shook her head when he mentioned the therapy! She was actually getting ready to LIE. She was pretending to not know what he was referring to and was forming her defense. She is a habitual liar and she is just getting caught more because she’s high and she freaked and said ” I’ve been accused” when she wasn’t because she IS guilty! That confused frown was fake and guilty. Ill bet Miranda is on to her but cannot get into it or is smart enough to say absolutely nothing to Corey except that she will support him and that she will step up and help those girls.

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        Leah looked guilty as hell when Corey confronted her. And Jeremy even questioned her in the car and she avoided answering him.

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        For real. She got SO DEFENSIVE just by Corey even mentioning therapy. She flipped out saying “don’t accuse me, don’t accuse me!” but he didn’t accuse her of fuck all. He just said “therapy is important.” Guilty conscience much, Leah?

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        Go Corey! Get full custody! Does Corey know about her drug problems? People who know shit should come out and confront leah and Jurrrmy about their drug problems. I used to think Leah was a good mother, after the missed therapies and other stuff “the forgotten twin” said, makes me think she’s a shit mother. Yeah she doesn’t let her kids starve, all she does is keep them alive.

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        Did anyone else notice Miranda (sp?). It’s like she wanted to go full on HAM on Leah and Corey but restrained herself by babbling about co-parenting. I don’t know much about her, but what I do, she seems like a decent egg. Clearly, she wasn’t having Leah’s rant and then little cry fit. Save the arguing for somewhere other than the Piggly Wiggly Parking Lot Drop Off.

        And Corey. God Bless. I know he isn’t an angel but talking to Leah is like talking to a crack den wall. It pained me to see him even “reach out” to Jeremy and point out of Leah was yelling at him.

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        Bitch needs to be pointing those gross ass talons at herself for being a neglectful parent. The therapy place wouldn’t just say that Leah was missing appointments for the fuck of it, or make that up. The “COREY TYLER” outburst was precious as well. Cat got your tongue?

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        Right?! Corey didn’t accuse her of anything, and she was spouting out bullshit the whole time. I’m glad MTV showed how shitty of a person she is. I was ecstatic when the girlses said they wanted to go back to their Dad. Suck it, Leah!

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        Who wouldn’t? I mean seriously, Leah and cheetohs and Lunchables? Or Corey and Miranda with real food and genuine play time spent with them. Corey wins hands down.

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        Leah never does anything with them. She just ignores them while they climb all over everything and get into whatever they find. Corey on the other hand, actually feeds them FOOD and spends actual time with them. He talks TO them, not about them in front of them, and doesn’t bad mouth their mother in front of them.

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        ^^^EXACTLY!!!

        When we do see Leah doing things with the girls, there’s always someone else involved such as Jeremy or her sister, etc. She doesn’t take them to the zoo! She doesn’t play in the back yard with them! She doesn’t even put fucking hot dogs on the damn grill for them, they are left to fend for themselves with fucking lunchables, Cheetos and frozen spaghetti meals that are eaten on the kitchen floor. The ONE time it showed her fixing THEM something to eat was when she making popcorn. Yeah, yeah, I know she’s got her hands full with both girls and Adderal, but shit! Spend some quality time with your kids bitch. I have no sympathy for her anymore. If she wouldn’t have been a whore and fucked Robbie and not complained about every fucking thing imaginable when she was with Corey, her family would still be together, because it was obvious that Corey fucking loved her ass for some reason. Bitch is never satisfied with shit. She always wants something better, more money, expensive shit. I don’t doubt that she loves her kids one bit, I just think her mothering/adult skills are extremely questionable.

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        and i thought it was pretty poor of a decision for them to start bashing corey infront of the girls they are not infants they are toddlers who understand, and why the hell is Leah so damn defenssive?!

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        That gross ass mouth open chewing/talking junkie was holding onto that car door for dear life! I give her credit; it’s got to be hard to be so indignant while struggling to stand.

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        How the hell does Jurmy find her sexy…. i don’t understand. Is it the droopy eyes? Almost falling asleep? Uneven weird haircut? Chewing with her mouth open? She used to be so adorable but dye for the babies head and drugs are a bad thing…

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        She is fucked up in every episode.

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        And did I hear that Jeff said HE was helping pay partly for the therapy??? This asking for more money and the slamming Corey for ONLY $200. 00 a month is absurd. It is impossible he is paying that little. Her saying how she tried to be sweet about money and how she doesn’t spend except when needed when she’s been bitching about it and bought new car seat for another car is insane!!

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        You’re correct. As a therapist myself we do no discharge a child from services unless there are multiple no call no shows and no effort made by the parent(s)

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        Leah’s a lying bitch. I’ve been saying that since day one. SHE is the one complaining about the $200 a month thing. Corey has never mentioned a set amount that he pays or doesn’t pay or what the details were.

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        do not*** sorry my phones autocorrect took over haha

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        Yep. She said she has them 6 days a week. BS

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      That broke my heart when Jace said she didn’t want to set up the party with him.
      I can’t believe a mom, even jenelle, would not be heartbroken if their child said something so sad to them.

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      She straight up ignored him and Jace felt it. So fucking sad….

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      Javier thinks he’s a Man stirring up trouble? He has boobs! Grown up bitch!

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      She should have at least said she would love to decorate with him and be nice to him and pay attention to him 🙁 that poor kid went from telling her to forget about nathan, to offering to help decorate, to singing, and then to offering ice cream sandwiches. OMG MY HEART 🙁

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        But he’s mean? And bipolar?
        I can’t put into words how sad I am for Jace and his severe bad luck at being born into that family. And his fuck up of a father who would no doubt watch the show and still has no contact.

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        I feel heartbroken for that kid. I wish I could adopt him. Well what I really wish was that either Jenelle would stop with her BS even if she wasn’t ever going to step up and be a proper mom…but at least would keep the yelling and guy drama away from him. If you don’t even have custody why do you continue to mess up his life and make it even harder on Barbara? Lots have mentioned how Babs is far from perfect..well the only real time she is super stressed, or yelling, is when it’s something to do with Jenelle. It’s all so sad 🙁 We all feel for him so much and his mother can’t get it together enough to think of his best interests. Heck, she can’t even shield him from her bad choices, and that is the least she could do.

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      Javi will learn when Kail wants her Linc with her on Father’s Day…after they split.

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    Jace absolutely broke my heart this episode. First off, it is so obvious he is scared of douche-lord Nathan. When Jenelle was sitting in the car and Jace was talking to her he basically said, “Who cares if Nathan doesn’t want to come! You have ME!” And what did Jenelle do? Sit there and cry over Nathan instead of realizing what a little sweetheart she has in the backseat who will love her UNCONDITIONALLY! Then when he started singing…good god. I teared up, not even going to lie.

    And then there’s Leah. Damn, it’s crazy what drugs can do to one’s appearance! She looked absolutely h a g g a r d in the scene driving to pick up the girlses. And her chomping on her meth candies…gag. I can’t stand her anymore! It’s so obvious she’s under the influence of something. Her pupils are so tiny in most of the scenes. Of course she wants more child support, more drugs for her!

    I also think the girlses asking to go back with their dad immediately after they get with Leah says a great deal.

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      yup the “Be quiet” too. stop badmouthing their dad right in front of them. leah and jermy are absolute trash.

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      Oh, I forgot to comment on Kail and her vacation. Her old hypocritical self was starting to peek through this episode. Can you imagine if Jo wanted to take Isaac away during Mothers Day? She’d have a hulk fit.

      Aubree is adorable, especially when she was getting her mini-facial! Chelsea looks so pretty this season. Adumbs new girlfriend looks so bad it’s laughable. And what type of look is he trying to achieve? Bald, cop glasses and a mustache. He looks like one of the Super Troopers (which is ironic).

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        Completely true about kail. If the situation was reversed, heads would roll if Joe politely asked to have him on Mother’s Day. And I believe she acquiesced because 1-she knew that and 2-she knows she probably should have looked at a calendar first and asked Joe prior to booking a trip. Duh! Not his problem.

        Leah-her segments have taken a curios downward spiral usually reserved for jenelle. I wish I knew actual facts regarding what Corey has really paid. I don’t want to lay blame w such discrepancy in the he said/she said

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        thank you! thats what im trying to figure out why the hell wouldnt you look at the dates before booking something like that ?? who plans a family vacay without confirming first especially when you know that there is a custody agreement in place. it was almost like she was confident that she would be able to take him

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        Because she assumed that Jo would just say OK because it was a vacation to the beach which Isaac loves. I’m glad he stuck to his guns this time. It’s fucking fathers day, Kail! I wouldn’t have even had the balls to ask him to give up fathers day! And, Javi needs to suck it because..NEWS FLASH..you’re not Isaac’s father! Step parent yes, but his real dad takes precedence over your big lipped ass. Now, go sit down with your dumbass Miley tshirt on. Freak.

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        lmaoo yes plse have several seats Javi i personally believe the step parents shouldnt get involved when it comes to the co parenting. Juurmy and Javi need to stay out of it. u rarely see Maranda getting involved, she may comment her opinion to her husband behind closed doors but thats it. i think this last episode was the first time i heard her actually say something to Leah and it was really just to say we dont need to besties but get along for the babies. so kudos to her!

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        She had wrote on twitter that basically she wouldn’t have cared if he did take Isaac in Mother’s Day and that he did already! And wrote a direct tweet to Vee stating that. Well guess them being friends flew out the window. LOL. I don’t understand why they must put one another on blast on twitter instead of just talking in person.

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        Lol next season scene- Jo has Isaac for Mother’s Day and he gives Vee a Mother’s Day card and calls her mom..

        KAIL’S HEAD EXPLODES

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        Lol remember Kail’s fake gushing, “I LOOOOOVE VEE! I LIKE LOOOVE HER.” No you don’t, you were trying to prove you didn’t want Jo anymore. Even the fake act lasted about two minutes.

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        Every time a comment of mine has to do with kail or javi I get downvoted. hahaha

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        I gave Kail a break on this one because she handled it really well. She didn’t argue and scream. She basically accepted and then told Javi to get over it when he tried ti fight with her about it.

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        She did handle it a lot better, especially in regards to previous times. I agree with you there, but I didn’t like that she asked in the first place. Why couldn’t they plan that vacation for any other time? Also…Kail acted like her not making a big deal was such a huge favour from her.

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      agreed – that was one the saddest things I’ve ever seen – i had to look away. That poor fucking kid…….

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    when javi is replaced by a new stepdad for lincoln, i can’t wait for him to have to give up time for lincoln and his new stepdaddy! i’m sure he will love it.

    JAVI you are the creepiest controlling stepdad ever. get the fuck away from isaac for christ’s sake.

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    Leah’s hair isn’t sexy. Or slutty. She looks like Kate gosselin and she definitely isn’t sexy or slutty!!

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    Jenelle, Babs and Nathan need to stop talking about Jace and Jace’s behavior IN FRONT OF JACE!! P

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    Ughhhhh. Not sure where to start this crapfest, so let’s take a stab at this alphabetically.

    Chelsea – Aubree is adorable as always. I really think Aubree is a breath of fresh air in Chelsea’s life. I’m not sure why Taylor was given her own segment, I almost feels it serves her right to say she knows what Chelsea is going through considering she was the one who put Chelsea through it, and by the looks of the preview, continues to do so.

    Jenelle – Can someone please hug Jace? I don’t think my heart could break anymore for him until he started singing that song about rainbows when Jenelle was freaking out in the car. I know everyone has been calling Jenelle the voice of reason, but I really don’t think she’s any different, she just put herself next to someone SO worse she looks changed in comparison.

    Leah – COREY OWES YOU NOTHING. Thank you Mary teen-mom of Jesus he is filing for full custody. “He can get his truck repoed, he can lose his house, I DON’T CARE!!” Well doesn’t that say everything?

    Kailyn – Claps for Kailyn in this episode. But first, Javi, you are NOT Isaac’s dad. You have no say over what is best for him. I love when he hinted in the restaurant Isaac shouldn’t go for 6 week to Jo’s “I just feel like our house is homeeeee” and Kail shut him down with “That’s co-parenting.” I really did like the scene with Kail and Jo in the park, how Jo complimented her bedtime schedule, and scolded Isac with her over the sticks saying, “if mommy says something you need to listen”. What an improvement with the two of them!! I know a lot will be said about the vacation situation, so I want to focus on the positives with Kail in this episode. But me thinks Javi will be eating A LOT of his words if their relationship ever fails. Kail’s right, if she’s not fighting with Jo, she’s fighting with him. I do see now why she’s stressed all the times.

    Megan – you ROCK. Seriously, you post this so fast. The episode ended 18 minutes ago (including the time it took for me to type this novel.) Have you set up our sex date yet – I mean – did your Keurig come?

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    Kail : Javi is NOT Isaacs dad. He doesn’t need to be with you during your father’s day celebration vacation on father’s day. Also, you saying you wouldn’t get upset if you had to lose mother’s day, uhhh yeah you would.

    Leah: your a bitch. Buckle your girls up. $1500 a month really?! Corey needs full custody asap.

    Jenelle: Sad. I’ve never felt for Jace like I did this episode. Babs is his mom. she always will be. Love how Nathan couldn’t even try and help out with the baby shower. So much for being there for this kid if your already bailing on the baby shower.

    Chelsea : Why was Taylor segment necessary?

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      I just started watching but Kail with the vacation made me mad already. Most parents who care about their child want to be with them on Mothers/Fathers day. It isn’t selfish Kail and I bet you would really be pissed if Jo took Isaac on vacation for Mother’s Day.

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        She’s telling him to celebrate it another day. No kail you can’t magically change the day because you want to celebrate Javi instead

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        I don’t think she planned on it being on father’s day. I was confused about why they didn’t check that sonner. I’m guessing by the time they realized it wad father’s day then the trip was already planned. I also think it was Javi not Kail that wanted Isaac because it was father’s day. Hell he asked her to go to court. I was glad she shut him down.

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        Some people care more about the actual holiday than others.. Rather than argue with my son’s bio mom about holidays we just stick to the exact schedule- if Father’s Day falls on her weekend we just celebrate it Friday night or Sunday evening when our whole family is home.
        I assume if you were dealing with a friendly co-parenting situation you could maybe offer extra days in exchange for a specific holiday that was really important to you or maybe trade weeks if you had a special vacation..

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        The fact that Jo stipulated Father’s Day in the visitation agreement means he felt that it was important and in this vp case even if he is being a complete ass, I agree 109% and Kail and Javi were stupid and immature to not look at the calendar and visitation dates BEFORE booking their vacation!
        She did handle it well AFTER the fact but bad mouthing Jo was not cool and asking him and putting him in the position to refuse was jeopardizing the truce they’d formed.
        Javi is threatened about his manhood on all levels.

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        i know i thought i was the only one who thought that request was outrageous like oh yea the solution is u could celebrate it before or after. like how abt we not confuse this kid and let him spend fathers day with his dad! not Javi!

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      No shit. No one cares about Adumb’s hoes past or present. Stop forcing them on us MTV.

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      probably because all chelsea ever does is whine about adumb. shes kind of boring..

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        I really don’t understand why people complain about Chelsea being boring. A boring parent makes for a kid that won’t need to be put in therapy.

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        Yeah notice everyone else’s segments had arguments and sad stuff and Chels is just busy doing her job and playing with her kid and stuff. She’s boring because she’s not fucking up.

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        im not saying i wish she was nonboring. but its the reason why they include adumb and his string of women.
        obviously its better for aubree that chelsea isnt out doing meth or anything , but she never has anything interesting going on except for her adumb drama.

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        I want to see more of Chelsea and Aubree interact and none of Taylor/Adumb/old ho. The spa scene is probably one of my favorites ever.

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        I( would honestly rather watch Chelsea pop zits than see Adam’s porn star gf

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        Plus when she’s with her friends it’s entertaining (but they crack me up)

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        Chelsea also really annoyed me with running around like a middle schooler pointing out Adams pornstar at the game to EVERYONE. Her episodes always revolve around what Adumb does or bangs. She says she’s over it but constant adumb gossip. & why do they still spell out his name w or w.o Aubs around? Its annoying.

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        I agree she was immature and I’m not really her biggest fan (but I think she’s pretty!) but it must be so hard because she really really really wanted to end up with Adam. It sucks. She will probably always wish things had worked out.

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        Honestly what irritated me even more was her not, AT LEAST saying hi to Adam and talking to him like and adult with Aubree around for two seconds. She didn’t necessarily have to meet the porn star but instead of making it awkward for her friends, her daughter & family, she could have been the big girl no matter how much of a joke she thinks Aubree’s dad is and maybe try and make this an exciting and memorable moment for her daughter.

        I get it I mean we all know Adams a douche but just cause you know this doesn’t mean you couldn’t put a happy face on for your daughter, its all for her happiness and if that means talking to Adam at a tee-ball game than so be. I mean as far as that situation goes at least she had the decency to close the door then talk shit…unlike other ones on this program:)

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        I agree with you percocet & ponies. Being civil wouldn’t cost her anything and it would be great for Aubree. Now obviously Adam is a d-bag but a “hi” or “hey” wouldn’t have been that difficult. Of course it also goes both ways (Adam could say hi) but since we know he’s immature and stupid she should be the bigger person in that sense. *BUT I want to emphasize she’s not at fault for Adam being such a difficult, nasty person and it really must suck for her.

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        I think expecting her to interact with Adam when he isn’t being receptive or after he does another insesitve even for him thing is asking a lot of a young 22 year old! I have friends with kids who have to sit at opposite sides of a stadium at their childrens college graduations and have separate wedding receptions because the Ex’s cannot be in the same place. It’s stupid, toxic and grandstanding and absurd that their children have to endure such behavior and rise above it, but Chelsea is very young and her maturity level of male/ female relating stopped at 16. She is doing pretty good considering the inner sewer pipe she had a sweet kid with.

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        Hmm interesting points catelynns chewed cuticles. I guess we’re all talking about what woudl be ideal. but Like i said i def don’t blame her at all for having that attitude towards him. He broke her heart and then even though it’s been years, uses that against her by constantly rubbing her face in every relationship. I don’t blame her at all, just saying it must be weird for aubree (esp. as she gets older) if Chelsea isn’t willing to even say hi, even though it’s not supposed to be all Chelsea’s job. It’s just a sucky situation.

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      Totally, she knew the schedule BEFORE she planned her vaca! What dummy plans it to fall on a specific day the father previously requested PLUS IT’S FATHERS DAY. Javi get over yourself! Kail tried ,but knew it was up to Jo and not her! She put Jo in a bad spot for that one.

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      God right??? (About Taylor). Fuck off Taylor. You’re stupid and no one feels bad for you.

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    There we have it – Jeff stated that Corey has the girlses from Friday to Monday morning! Stop lying Leah and get off the drugs. Corey has your girlses for way more than one day a week! No more money for you!

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      I caught that too! Leah looked high this whole episode and she’s lying to try to make corey look bad. Drugs are bad, m’kay!

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      I always interpreted it as in Leah-land, if she drops off the girls Friday morning and picks them up late on Sunday, she “sees” the girls Sunday-Friday, and Corey only has them on Saturday=one day a week.

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      Also the fact that we just learned he has them Friday through Monday after Leah claimed he only has them one day a week is more of a reason why I dont believe just pays 200 a month. He pays for the insurance too. Leah and Jeremy are just assholes.. lets see how long it takes for her to make another public rant because of people dogging her again.

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      I have a soft spot for Leah…kind of..I really want to root for her…but she was…too much in this episode.

      Both of them I think may be being misleading.

      There’s something off about the whole thing.

      If he has the girls Fri-Mon, that’s four days, that’s more time than what Leah gets. If he has them more than Leah, why is he seeking more time? And if he has them more than Leah, why isn’t she paying him child support?

      Idk, I know almost nothing about how that kind of thing works. But I don’t believe him outright. But I did feel sorry for him during the argument at the cars.

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      And who in their right mind would choose to pay $200/ month AND 60% medical bills <from Leah's mouth then she stated one bill in particular was $20,000
      Versus being court ordered to pay $800/month flat

      I call BS on everything that comes out of Leah's meth mouth!!

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        Again- I think what she might see may be statements from bills that are before insurgence kicks in. I know I see a bill/ statement from a lab for say $650- then insurance is billed then I see another for $485 with more pending approval the I get a bill says what patient owes that says $182.00 due and payable upon receipt. Then I usually wait until I see that same dollar amount twice before I send that amount in. I’ve have over paid the lab or radiologist more than once. Insurance companies are quick to send bills and statements but slow to pay labs, doctors or for services and many have to be sent in many times before insurance companies pay what they are suppose to pay all along. Sooooo Leah getting a $20,000 bill may or may not be accurate. Ali will have HUGE bills, but she will get Shriners for a lot of it AND Leah is both stupid, bad with money and numbers and a liar.

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        also i was wondering if leah gets any kind of social security disabilty check or something like that for ali??

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      I’m so late to this party because I’ve been horrible at keeping up with Teen Mom. Just moved 500 miles and started a new job so I haven’t been able to sit down and watch an episode until now. I feel like I’m missing a lot, and hopefully someone reads this and can comment/answer my questions.

      Are we positive that Leah is doing drugs? She’s looked pale and unkempt in all of the clips and episodes I’ve been able to watch. Cory mentioned to Jeff that he thinks the girlses are better off at his house (which leads me to believe that there is more going on than just the lunchables and Leah lying around while her toddlers run amok). I didn’t get to see episode 21, but I assume Leah said something about having the girlses 6 days a week, which I would have never believed because I thought they spent every weekend with Cory like Jeff said: Friday-Monday. That’s 3 days.

      The parking lot scene was nuts. First of all, Leah was munching like a cow and it almost seemed like she and Jeremy were preparing for a rumble, West Side Story style. “I’m gonna argue with Cory, y’all. Doesn’t that make you proud, Jerm!?! Does it? Babe. Babe. Babe. Are you proud that I cursed?” She totally went silent and you could see the wheels turning in her mind when Cory said he got those phone calls from therapy before vacation. The “I’VE BEEN ACCUSED” and “CORY TYLER!” blurts involved a whole lot of crazy eyes.

      I watched the sneak peek for next week’s episode and the Cory we know is like…gone. This clip was the most loquacious diatribe I’ve ever seen from him. I’m pretty sure he was thisclose to z-snapping. He made an excellent point about the insurance company being huge and him not being able to get anywhere. Insurance companies don’t really exist to help people, they exist to make a buck and they lose money paying for little Ali’s wheelchair. I guess my point is that Cory is observing some strange behavior or the girlses have said things to him…what I want to know is if someone can fill in some blanks for me?

      It wouldn’t surprise me if Leah’s been abusing prescription pills…shaking an orange pill bottle is an Appalachian Mating Call.

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        You hit all the points- I think Corey feels safe and understood with Miranda. Leah drove him to distraction. Her only weapon was the cute little girl cheer leader – whine support me – I love you -aren’t I a cute little when I try-sex kitten shit. I think with her constant whine and neediness and spending and lack of realizing you have to be patient for things like houses and furniture and cars- that grows old quick- plus she left him. Up until recently still pulled it on him. Her revenge and real bitch came out when he refused to see her as anything but pathetic. Why Jermy turned on him I really don’t know.

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        “shaking an orange pill bottle is an Appalachian Mating Call”

        LMAO! This is freaking hilarious. May I use this line but change the location?

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    Leah and Nathan annoyed the hell out of me during this episode. Leah, especially… in the car, cursing so much and talking bad about Corey. I feel bad for Jace. I really do not think Jenelle should have had another kid.

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    You guys! I can’t. I want Jace. I have 3 boys and I can’t even imagine. This poor baby. Everything about this episode. I almost wish I hadn’t watched it. Him sitting quietly and awkwardly as J & N talk about where he is going to live. Him singing so sweetly when J was in the car venting! Girl, times get tough, but put on a happy face for your kid! Why is she venting to him? Or to herslef around him! He didn’t know what else to do but sing her a song about rainbows. I wanted to crawl into my TV and grab him and hug him and pinch his cheeks. Then when the fight with Barbara happened, and he starts crying, and Babs asks WHATS WRONG JACE? WHATS WRONG? Well no shit! He’s had way too much! He couldn’t handle it anymore. Poor kid has no safe place, no security, no where to run to! I’m sorry I know I’m rambling but I just had to get it off my chest. My heart literally hurts for him.

    Leah, I have so much ugly to say about this B. Oooooh if I was Miranda… I’m sorry.. woooo… I pray to the universe Miranda arrests Leah for meth and pills one day. Ugh that would be so freakin sweet! When she screamed CORY TYLER… Miranda was looking like Thaaa fuuuhh??!

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      Why did MTV show us scenes from the dramatic drop off during last weeks episode and then show us the last part of the fight in tonights episode? The worst part was that we had to watch Leah loudly chew sour patch kids with her mouth wide open talking about her “sex hair’ AGAIN!

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      I didn’t think he was singing to Jenelle. I thought he was singing to himself to soothe himself.

      He asked her, “You don’t want to do it with me?”

      She said, “I’m doing it no matter what.”

      But she never told him what he was really seeking to hear which was, “Of course, Jace. I love you more than the world, more than Nathan, and of course I want to be with you!”

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      Yeah that first name middle name thing was bullshit. Leah and Jerm were being ridiculous. Clearly neither of them have ever made an insurance claim before or they’d know it takes fucking forever and the person in the call center you talk to on the phone has nothing to do with it. You could see Miranda was just biting her tongue. She is a saint.

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        I would LOVE to see Miranda cold-cock Leah in the face. I don’t normally condone violence like that. But I’d approve.

        Hell just a good old fashion tongue lashing where facts and straight up doses of truth are hurled at Leah’s face.

        Miranda (while I’m sure no saint) is top notch. Fuck it..so is Corey too.

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        Leah is too stupid to follow facts and Lear sentences. Corey mentions the importance of therapy and she freaked and said ” don’t accuse me Corry Tyler” she can’t follow three full sentences. She needs to be hit with a billy club!

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        clear sentences- auto correct or fat fingers—

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        Jesus Leah, you must be trolling..or one of your white trash family members/friends. You keep giving me a thumbs down..despite others calling you out on your shit.

        Go Eat a Bowl of Fuck

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        Mama Dawn is on damage control I reckon. There’s thumbs down all over comments about Leah. Don’t be meth smoking, pill snorting, ho bag Leah and no one will hate on you. In the meantime, feed your kids something that’s not from a package!

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        I would LOVE to see Miranda cold-cock Leah in the face:

        This is how Leah’s problems began, by being cold cocked in the face by a series of guys! Problem is, she said to those cold cocks ‘cum inside and warm us both up’.

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    Omg. I am not a huge Chelsea fan but the facial scene with aub- I die!!!!! Soooo cute. I’m only about ten minutes in on the DVR but Leah looks out of it. Blind item is soooo her. They are talking about the insurance again. Yeah dumbasses. Please call and harass the insurance company. You’re so stupid. There is a process and you or Corey calling isn’t going to speed things up as we’ve clearly seen as she just got the “willchair” lol

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    I was unsure if I believed the drug rumours about Leah until I saw this episode. Now there is no doubt in my mind. Wow, she’s lost it. And the scenes with Jace – how heartbreaking. I found myself in tears more than once

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    Dying to see my cougar ex neighbor tonight too! You’ll have to excuse any weird comments. My boys turned 2 today and I had wine to celebrate. Ahhhhh sitting in bed watching TM2. What has my life become? Lol

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      I’m right there with you!

      Leah should take note, you stressed? Don’t smoke meth have a glass of wine.

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        Then you will turn into Maci

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        I’m lame and only like it in bed or on the couch! Lol

        Speaking of this bitch, so I bought one of those trashy magazines (as always) and it said “Maci, she’s getting married” first thought was wtf no she ain’t if she were I would have read it on this blog” and then I read it and it says oh they have discussed marriage and so she expecting a ring VERY soon. God I hope that’s not true!

        Second part of their little teen mom segment talked about beard and Tyler & they were talking about how they want Carly and they’re new baby to have a relationship. YOUVE GOT TO BE FUCKING JOKING!! Oh god I’m not sure I’ll be able to watch these degenerate losers! Could they meet one day in the future? Maybe and that’s a big huge fucking maybe, but really? I’m not saying don’t love the child you were so selflessly mature enough to be adopted out but in the same right let her be. I’m sure if they did in fact end up having a “relationship” it will be completely awkward and the shit talking WILL happen afterwards. Trust me. I have that kind of “sister” in my life.

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    Leah: I don’t get why everyone is fighting. I’m so lost. I feel like the show is leaving some stuff out or something. It’s just a bunch of he said she said at this point. The only thing she has mentioned a million times is that Corey doesn’t harass the insurance call center everyday. As if it’ll make a difference. Also why did they go to take the girlses to see Corey and they didn’t even leave with him? What the hell happened? Also Leah looks really good this episode and I’m not sure if it’s the haircut or because she wasn’t wearing $1800 worth of makeup on her face for change.

    Chelsea: I can totally see the esthetician board being like “license revoked for performing services on a toddler!” lol anyway good job Adam for showing up to the t-ball game I guess. I thought it was weird and random that they filmed with Taylor all by herself but whatever I guess. Chelsea’s segments were pretty uneventful but I guess that might be a good thing. She’s doing well overall. If she could stop randomly squealing and baby talking for no reason, her life would be near perfect!

    Jenelle: I think Jenelle was semi-smart to say they should wait to get settled with Kaiser before fighting to get Jace back. Taking on a toddler and a newborn all at once when you aren’t used to being a full time caregiver would be too much. Jenelle isn’t ready, but will she ever be ready? It’s been five years of “I’m gonna get Jace back soon” and nothing yet. I think Nathan had some valid points that Babs might be getting too old to care for Jace and that her fuse is short, but he and Jenelle aren’t exactly better with the problems they’ve got. I think overall he just wants Jace so he can spite Barbara. I feel bad for the kid. No matter which house he’s at he is surrounded by yelling. The scene with Jace and Jenelle in the car was so sad. Jace was such a sweet little voice of reason. But all Jenelle cared about was getting validation from a guy, once again. It was just sad watching Jenelle, Jace, and Barbara all have their turns at crying in the last scene. Such unnecessary drama all stemming from an unhealthy relationship.

    Kailyn: Proud of her for not getting mad at Jo for not giving up his time, but a little disappointed she would even ask and put him in that position in the first place. But I can’t say I wouldn’t at least try if I were in her shoes either. I think she needed to stop with the “best thing for Isaac” crap in that situation. No, it was about what you wanted vs what he wanted. You wanted your whole “family” together for a vacation but you knew what the custody deal was and how important it was for Jo to have Isaac on Father’s Day. Maybe that’s why she didn’t put up so much of a fight because even Kail “Hypocrite” Lowry knows she can’t suddenly get mad about him standing by an arrangement she agreed to in court. She should have booked the vacation for a different time. Or if Javi’s work wouldn’t allow it then that sucks but that’s just the way it goes when you share custody. Also Javi please take all your Miley Cyrus shirts and burn them.

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      About Leah, they are def leaving something out. My husband occasionally watches this shitstorm with me and tonight he was very confused about why they were fighting so much… And why Leah looked so high

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        Lucky you – i have to sneak-watch this because these girls thoroughly disgust my husband. I did get him to watch ONE episode way back and he can do a wicked Jennelle impression based on that.

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      I thought Leah looked really good too. Probably you and I are the only ones, lol….

      I also like her and Jeremy together.

      But I felt bad for Corey. I agree that it’s just a bunch of he said, she said now. And I don’t get why Jeremy kept riling Leah up. It’s like he doesn’t know what else to say or how to comfort her.

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        Yeah it did cross my mind that Leah looked pretty this episode. Crazy, yes. A little unwell, yes, but she’s always been a pretty girl. Her makeup looked good this episode for once I think was it.

        Yeah I assumed she was dropping the girls off too, but then realized that it appeared she was picking them up from Corey when I saw her putting them in the car and saying “you got new car seats.” Otherwise, I was going to say it was bad editing, or they were jerks and didn’t let the twins go to their dad’s which is why they wanted to go back there. Eek. That would have been 17,897987 kinds of messed up.

        Anyway. In this episode, Javi and Jeremy were both being unreasonable in pushing their spouses to fight with their exes and “Stand up” against them. I think its because they feel threatened, frankly, and I can understand that. They don’t want their wives to get along and be on good terms with their ex husband, because that’s really awkward, and its easier to just be like “screw them.” Not the right thing to do, but definitely difficult because of this type of situation. Javi saying “I feel like this is his home” was not necessary. It doesn’t matter how you feel on that subject, Javi. I’ll stop at that.

        Anyway, back to Leah. Definitely disappointed in the amount of fighting going on and cursing, and lack of acknowledgement toward the twins. They’re probably scared, confused, fed up, and likely starting to pick up on the behavior of aggression. I think the point Miranda was trying to make was “can we stop doing this right now, because this is not what the girls need to witness.” Very immature of Leah and Corey to start being like “Look Jeremy, look what’s he/she’s doing” haha. I still like Corey, though, and am understanding his part of things more than Leah and Jeremy’s for sure. Leah and Jeremy clearly have no idea what dealing with an Insurance company is like. Not one dang clue.

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      Oh I guess Leah was picking up the girls, not dropping them off. DERP.

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    I cannot believe Jeremy called corey a piece of shit. There are plenty of dads out there who never see their children and never pay/paid a dime of child support those are the pos not the dad who sees his daughter and pays child support.
    Also corey is usually shown playing with the girls. Jeremy and leah are usually shown ignoring the girls and/or laying in bed.

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      Haha that’s funny. When Leah and jurmie started taking off and I’m guessing it was Aleeah kept saying can we go with dad? She asked like five times all while the two dipshits were in front talking shit. Bitch answer yo kid! Say not right now baby but hey you get to see him again in x amount of days.

      She looked terrible. The mess mtv is leaving out in this story has defienitly gotta be her poplin them pills. Why is it all of a sudden she’s so hostile and down Corey’s throat? People on drugs are always on the defense and she sure took it to heart when he said that therapy was just as important. I would not be the least be surprised if Ali missed more than two days. I know those places have limited space but they ain’t gonna kick you out after two days that supposedly have been excused. He said she said. C’mon mtv you can’t hide it! Wouldn’t you rather tell the truth than some trash magazine? Stoopid!

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      Did you notice how calm Gracie was when she was with Corey? I bet it is because they play with her there and keep her busy. Want she is with Leah they are constantly inside fending for themselves and have no way to burn off all that energy!

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      Gracie is much calmer with Corey and Jeff. Leah definitely acts like she is on something. I couldn’t tell you what but she acts like a few people I know who snort pain pills.

      Also going to add a personal story because I am still mad about Jeremy calling corey a pos. I have three half brothers. My mom divorced the dad when the oldest was about 6 and the youngest 1. The NEXT time he saw his boys was 10 years later at a family gathering at his mothers house.(his mom and everyone else considers my brothers, mom, and myself their family and not the boys father.) He has not seen them since except the one time he saw the youngest because he keeps in touch with the daughter bio dad had. He never knew my two older brothers joined the military or the amount of times they served in either Afghanistan or Iraq. He didn’t see my oldest brother get married(the only one so far) either. Also to add he never payed a dime of child support to my mother.
      The guy couldn’t even stop drinking for one day when his daughter begged him to because it was her 18th birthday and she had the church youth group over to celebrate.
      In case you didn’t know that man is a pos not a man who cares about his children, has visitation, and pays child support. So get off your lazy ass Jeremy and Leah and realize what a great man Corey is and see how much he loves his girls.

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      Won’t be long till Juurmy is being the same piece of shit.
      Urgh. There isn’t even a word to describe the two of them and their backward thinking. Shouldn’t have spreaded your legses on Corey’s back seat Leah.

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    Nathan looks like he has B.O. On a constant basis…

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    Megan, you are seriously the best!

    First of all, JACE AND THE RAINBOW SONG. I can’t. That poor child is so desperate for love, and it doesn’t look like he’s getting it anywhere, not even from Barbara. I just hope he has a nice daycare teacher or something. Fuck Jenelle.

    Leah is so messed up on drugs, and it’s pretty damn sad. I wasn’t a huge Juuurmy fan, but he called Corey a piece of shit, so he can just kiss a world of asses as far as I’m concerned. No, Jeremy. Adam is a piece of shit. Nathan Griffith is a piece of shit. Say what you will about Corey being in denial about Ali’s health or whatever, but that is a good, honest, hardworking man who loves his daughters and does right by them. In a couple of years, Juuuurmy is going to be paying child support out of his ass, and I hope the next guy calls him a piece of shit.

    Wtf was up with Taylor getting her own segment, without either Chelsea or Adam there? I guess they were trying to fill the time slot? The facials were adorable 🙂

    Kail was kind of a flashback to her former, entitled self at first but after the conversation with Javi, I would bet all of my purple hair extensions that he demanded that they go away over fathers day weekend, so they could guilt Jo into letting them keep Isaac, so Javi could crow about being the world’s best Papi and whatnot. If Jo gets Isaac for 6 weeks, thst lwaves 46 other weeks to choose from. Asking Jo to give up that time is unfair to him and Isaac. He isn’t doing anything wrong, and I feel like Kail knew when she asked that she was being unreasonable. Jo was also being really cool this episode, and I loved Vee’s eyeroll when he told her about the vacation thing.

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    Jenelle could do better then Nathan. He is a major douche monster.

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      jenelle is clearly desperate for any douchebag to “love her”.

      it seems to be a pattern. thats why jace acts out for attention with his violence, because he wants someone to notice and love him. its really fucked up and sad.

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      Jenelle doesn’t need to “do better” though. chick needs to just be ALONE and work on her relationships with her two(!) kids.

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      Yup she can do better. When will she learn that self respect comes before getting validation from a guy?

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      It’s actually really sad that Jenelle looked like the reasonable one in the relationship. She’s with someone that is such a douche nugget that it makes her like mother Mary. lol I really wanna hire someone out in whatever Carolina they jump to a frow to kick his stuttering uneducated ass.

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        We’ve all heard of ‘roid rage. I think we can also add Steriod Stupid to the list of side effects. They both sum up Nathan. I think his whole crusade for custody of Jace is to get under Barbs skin and push her out of the picture. He has his own biological child out there that he could focus his time and energy on, yet he chooses not too.

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        He couldn’t be bothered to help set up the baby shower for his own child! Wonder how he’s doing with the Roll now that he’s actually here.

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        ‘Roid rage and head injury are just what makes him scream and stupid. There is an under the surface, very scary manipulative psycho in Nathan that is dangerous and if his brain get organized or he snaps he will be off the chain.

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        Yeah haha that’s exactly what it is. It’s a game to him he doesn’t care about Jace or what’s really important for him. He just wants to try to prove his nonexistent point to Babs that he’s more “important” to Jenelle and now that he’s got her daughter under his nipple showin spell he just needs Jace. Which is sad because Nathan is totally like that movie stepfather, he essentially comes out of nowhere no ones know anything about him. He squeezes himself into everyone’s lives and then slowly starts beating them and then eventually he tries to murder everyone.

        Woah I went deep. That’s scary:/ lol

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        I remember that movie- stuffs the real father in the cabinets in the garage and gets caught when they hear the cell phone or something? But there is no step father- he’s not that smooth- he’s just going to get Jenelle to get rid of Babs and beat the shit out of Jace, and eventually Janelle will be too afraid to do anything about it.
        This is real life and I hope he drives drunk into a cement guard rail before anything really bad happens and Jenelle loses the baby to a really good foster family.

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        Remembah ladies, Ah didn’t say it was Steroid Rage Ah said it was the TIE-STRONE RAGE. -Babs

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      Jenelle needs to fucking be single and seek a lot of therapy and rehab. She shouldn’t be dating anyone ( I know it’s far too late) and she shouldn’t be having anymore fucking kids.

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      Right? Nathan makes me miss Kieffer. It says a lot when your new boyfriend is a major downgrade from Kieffer.

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    Wow. Great job coparenting scene too at the park with Jo and Kail and I’m not even being sarcastic. Oh wait- she has an alternate motive. That was close. Seriously Kail? It’s Father’s Day. That seems appropriate enough for Jo to have him. I swear to god every time I’m almost impressed by her, the manipulative blobfish emerges in all her glory.

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    Haha, I should change my name to TESTOSTERONE INDUCED STEROID RAGE.
    Bahahaha Babs cracks me up.

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    Yuck. The carrot is ridiculous. Him and his ugly weird ass tank tops. Wtf?!?!

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    Jesus Christ Leah. Wtf are you?! A cow chewing its cud? Good lord! That made me nauseous. Ugh. She’s such a stupid bitch. I’ve seen the scene already but seeing it again makes me want to slap her face.

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      She couldn’t even sit up straight never mind wear her seatbelt correctly
      The scene just gave me the feeling like those two were conspiring on the way to meet Corey, Leah reeling all over the place and jurmy egging her on…so disgusting

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        Yes I noticed Leah’s seatbelt too. I don’t know why she even bothers to put it on if she’s not going to do it correctly. And it’s totally wrong for Jurmy to be such an instigator. Interfering in matters that concern Leah & Corey as parents is not such a good thing for him to do. It could come back & bite him one day. Javi does it too. They should stay out of it!

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      What do you expect from white trash? That was probably some of her finest “table manners” right there.

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    Man what an episode.
    Kail: I’m gonna start with her because I liked her the most in this episode. I felt like she really handled the vacation thing really well. In fact I felt like she mainly asked about it because Javi was pushing for it. I feel like a lot of her problems with Jo lately have been because of Javi. He had this sick obsession with Isaac and its just getting creepier. When Jo said no, she seemed more worried about fighting with Javi about it later than upset about Jo saying no. Then she told Javi about it and he was like thats not best for Isaac and she goes yes it is. Then she even admitted that she was the main problem in their coparenting. YAY KAIL THERE’S HOPE FOR YOU YET! I was really happy with her in this episode. Oh and Javi YOU’RE NOT ISAAC’S FATHER!!!!! STOP THINKING YOU ARE!!!!
    Chelsea: There wasn’t much in her segment. She gave her kid a facial then went to her game. At least Adam actually showed up… Also I want her job where she takes her kid and gives her a facial… must be nice. The only thing I have to say is its soooooo obvious she still has feelings for Adam because of the way she acts around him when he has a new girlfriend.
    Leah: I was totally on her side last week. If Corey wasn’t paying child support then she had every right to take him to court but now she wants to raise it $700?! That’s excessive. Plus she was going on about of he gets hood house and truck taken away oh well… Um bitch where do you want your girlses to sleep?! Ugh she pissed me off in this one and I don’t like her hair it looks like shit. What a spiteful bitch she turned out to be!
    Jenelle: I thought I was gonna like her in this one but then she had to sit in the car and start crying to poor Jace. He just wants his mom’s love and she’s too busy crying over that idiot!!!! All the progress she made this season just went down the drain! And what the hell is with Barbara enabling her to act like that?! She called Nathan and bitched him out? ! How about calling your daughter and holding her accountable for her actions! Oh and then the way Barbara broke down and started crying it looked like I was watching Jenelle… thats where jenelle gets ot from, she learned it from her mom. I bet Babd used to cry to Jenelle about her boyfriend being mean to her… I mean shit Babs was crying to Jace th3 same way Jenelle was in the car. POOR JACE!!! I just wanna hug him and love him 🙁

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      I so agree about Barbara being just like Jenelle!

      When Barbara was crying and saying “I’m so upset” THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT JENELLE DOES! They say it the same way and they’re wiping their tears. I was moved by that similarity. It says a lot.

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        Yeah, there really is a lot of history and sad cycles and issues being passed on in Jenelle’s family. I am genuinely sad about it all.

        I was speechless with the conversation that Jace had with Jenelle. I am inclined to think that what the kids say is genuine, and maybe one of the most real things on this show, since they’re probably not pushing the kids to say certain things or asking leading questions and “Staging things.” Someone mentioned that the scene with Jenelle in the car seemed like it could have been in a movie because there was so much being said in the way her and Jace were interacting, about what is going on with them.

        I was impressed with what Jace was saying, and how intelligent and honest he seemed to be with Jenelle. He was basically straight up saying “Here it is, here is what I want, I want validation that you love me, and want to do something with me. Then maybe I’ll call you mom.” The “Its your choice” practically gave me goosebumps. As if he is all too aware that Jenelle has CHOSEN her relationships over him, and that he expected that she was going to choose that again. I mean right there. I don’t know, am I reading too far into that or did other people really become speechless at that point there. That kid was being so vulnerable and honest right there, and Jenelle was not even picking up on it. Definitely awful. Of course, the rainbow song was the other thing. It just made me imagine someone being in the midst of fighting and putting their hands over their ears and singing at the top of their lungs so that they don’t have to hear the fighting and can escape. Poor guy crying too. Maybe Babs and him should have held on to each other and cried together.

        If I were Barbara, I would have probably not even gotten involved in that shower. I would have been like “This is too ridiculous you guys, this is all your choice, you carry all of this weight because you made your bed now you sleep in it.” It should have been all on them, too, because here they are throwing a shower for themselves for Jenelle’s second child and doing nothing in regards to it. Its so sad and awkward because its a baby that no one was ready for, and has no idea what he’s about to be born into.

        This episode was really powerful because we’re really seeing a lot in the kids and how they are reacting to situations. Yikes.

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    Oh.my.gosh. Let me just start off by saying this episode absolutely broke my heart.

    Jenelle – I teared up in her segments. First, for Jace. Jenelle is so obsessed with Nathan wanting her that she doesn’t see she has Jace right there. He even directly said it to her and she didn’t give a damn. When she started crying in the car though, I really saw her pain. I think she knows that Nathan is not good for her, but she is so scared of being alone she puts up with him treating her like shit. Jace was so sweet when he was talking to her in the car about helping her, and then him singing that song. And then again, my heart breaks when he is sitting there crying and Babs doesn’t console him at all. I wanted to just hold him in that scene. I really hope they get their shit figured out, and seeing this was a wake up call, although highly doubtful.

    Leah – this fucking cunt. She is so obviously on something. When her and Juuuurmy were talking on the bed she was fading in and out. And the last scene she looked so haggard! I really hope Corey gets full custody. Why does Leah think she needs to have the final say in Ali’s medical? Corey is her dad, and he is extremely involved in their lives, why should he have no part in it?

    Chelsea – Aubree is the most adorable little thing! When Chelsea was giving her a facial she was so cute! She brings so much happiness to Chelsea’s life! Not sure why Taylor got her own segment, and his porn star girlfriend looked old as hell! How disgusting. Aubree looked so sweet with her big ol bow playing softball!

    Kail – at first I thought she was being very mature in this episode. Until their vacation conveniently lands on Father’s Day. Why should Jo let him go? He’s 4/5 years old, he has his whole life to go on beach trips! Why couldn’t they schedule it on a week that didn’t include Father’s Day? I guarantee she would flip her shot if Jo asked to have Isaac on Mother’s Day. I’m glad he did seem to be mature about the situation, saying he did feel bad, but he made it clear, even in here custody agreement, that he wanted to have his son on that day! And Javi gets ANOTHER week off for a vacation? My husband obviously is in the wrong branch.

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      Agreed about the Taylor scene. I don’t care what’s going on with her, she was just Adumb’s girlfriend, and I don’t care about him either! I mean, was that REALLY necessary?

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        I reckon maybe she was under contract from the beginning of the season, so seeing as they were paying her anyway, they put something of her on.

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        I actually appreciated the scene, because it actually reflected what Teen Mom’s original philosophy was supposed to be. Having a kid with someone doesn’t mean the relationship is going to last forever, as “Dr.” Drew frequently points out. Now Taylor is dealing with the same crap that Chelsea has dealt with and can finally see things from her perspective. Although, it still looks like there’s bad blood between them because the “next week” segment showed Chelsea flipping out over pictures of Taylor and Aubree…but I hope that’s just because she’s concerned that Adam is confusing Aubree by going between girlfriends.

        Idk. I think Chelsea and Taylor could be a major support system for one another and they owe it to their daughters to make time for sisterly bonding. If anything, they could team up to make it more difficult for Adumb to put their kids in harm’s way with his atrocious driving and reckless behavior.

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    Hello TMJ world! I’ve been reading this site since early 2012, and tonight’s depressing episode caused me to finally make an account.

    Related to the show, Leah is obviously abusing some kind of something. Her pupils this episode were tiny, and she looked super confused throughout her scenes. Did she forget that she was being filmed?
    Knowing her, she will post some convoluted Twitter response to the backlash she’s receiving because we’re all just a bunch of ~~haterzzzz. I really hope Corey gets full custody of the girlses

    Also, I think Jace needs a gofundme for his future therapy bills. Kid seems like the most mature member of his family.

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      Welcome Classy Carrot 😀 Leah & Juurmey both looked drugged up during the driving scene. With all the focus on Leah, I didn’t notice how rough Jeremy is also looking. Huge bags, thinner, eyes all crazy, rambling, much like Leah.
      Yikes. I hope Corey & Miranda get custody of those kids.

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        I noticed that when they were leaving she made the weirdest face. It was like a bull, she was breathing heavily out of her mouth and her nostrals were flared.

        Just wanted to point that out.

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        Haha yeah I commented somewhere last night because I rewatched the scene and really took in how messed up the two of them were. Mentioned it here already so I won’t repeat it all but she was half raging but also randomly laughing, Juurmy looked really spaced out…and their dialogue was a mess.

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        Yeah I noticed that. I may have even made that face before when I was incredibly angry. I mean she’s probably really really feeling angry because what Corey was accusing her of (as she said) was probably right. So, she’s guilty, she’s paranoid and hopped on because of whatever she may be on, and she doesn’t like having her mistakes pointed out. HEh heh.

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    Jenelle seriously pissed me off. I usually don’t get so worked up over stupid TV shows, but watching her enraged and made me want to cry at the same time.

    I’m sure all you ladies will agree when I say, POOR JACE. Seriously. I’m so sorry he had to be born into such a shitty family. It broke my heart when that beautiful little boy was trying to comfort his “mother”, and the bitch ignores him. The last time my son saw me upset was when my grandpa passed away last month. I remember he hugged my leg, told me he loved me and started singing You Are My Sunshine. That didn’t take away the death of my grandpa, but it definitely lifted my spirits and I sure as hell didn’t ignore him. I don’t know, maybe it’s because I actually have feelings for my child, but I would never, ever act like she does. I’m glad she doesn’t want custody of Jace back. She doesnt deserve it. Piece of shit. Good job, Jenelle! I want to punch her.

    This makes me want to adopt children to keep them from people like that.

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    It is so sad what jenelle is doing to jace. He is way too young to know all this business about her and Nathan . She could have totally said “aw Buddy yeah thank you for wanting to help, yeah, let’s go do this” and left. Instead she exposes him to totally adult situations and he probably feels like the parent and comforter. I dont know that ive ever been so disgusted by her. I know he can be a terror but Jace is so precious- I hope somehow, someway he makes it out as a somewhat happy kid. On another note, why are the spawn of Kail so damn cute?!? And again, shut up Kail. No consideration for Jo- once again. Scheduling your vacation on Father’s Day? I mean, really?! You kinda sabotaged yourself there. Javi looks like he’s breast feeding. Oh and he’s also a bitch. Wtf kind of opinion is he allowed to have about a kid that is NOT his?!

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    Kaylin: Wouldn’t it be more fair that since Kail gets Isaac most of the year that Jo gets him in the summer? She wants to claim that giving him less time is because of school, but she could make up a lot of that in the summer time. Also, she knew the agreement when she scheduled the vacation. She could take him to the beach another time, or at least compromise with Jo. Maybe say “You can have him for a few more days if you let me take him on this trip”. Javi as usual has to get involved when he’s not needed, it’s like he likes the drama. I actually agreed with Kail ending the discussion and leaving. We all know what would happen if Jo wanted to take Isaac for a family thing over mother’s day. Either way he’s “selfish”

    Chelsea: Yay Adam Showed. She’s so not over him.

    Leah: Are Jeremy and Javi good friends? If not then they should be. They’re great at sticking their noses in other people’s business and egging their wives on against their exes as if that’s healthy in any way. I forgot to say this last episode but I do agree that Corey should pay child support (actually I’d rather him have joint custody), but why does Leah deserve sole medical authority? Because Corey’s insurance doesn’t run on Leah time? Last week she said “I have the girls six days a week” though that’s impossible since Corey has them Friday through Monday. If so, isn’t that almost 50% (I guess depending on the time of day they’re dropped off/picked up) and thus he shouldn’t have to pay much child support at all? Maybe I just don’t know the system but I thought the more custody, the less support paid to the primary parent.

    Jenelle: Funny, the OK exclusive clip is the only one where she’s barable. I mean I’m sure Jace is traumatized by all the screaming not just by babs, but everyone. Again though Nathan needs to stfu and as she said, “worry about your daughter”. It was really sad how Jace got all cute trying to cheer her up but she was so stuck on meeeeean ol’ Nathan that she didn’t even care… Oh and how she said “I’ll help decorate regardless of what happens” and the second Barb starts yelling she leaves him crying. Yup you guys, she’s totallyyy changed. Prolly went to go buy weed.

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      I actually think Jurrrrmy and Papi are pretty good friends, or they at least used to be.

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      They are actually! Those two both seeked out Teen Moms! Best buds foreverrrr

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      Actually Jurrrmy and Javi are like BFF among the TM2 cast. Leah, Kail, Javi, and Jurrmy took a vacation together and they always go out just the 4 of them at all the reunions.

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        I didn’t know that! Did you read that somewhere?

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        Nah this was all on twitter lol. The two couples tool a vacation together and then jenelle met up with the girls for a day cause they were close to her area. Also everytime they’re at a reunion Kail and Leah post pictures of the fabulous foursome and Javi ajd Jurrmy tweet about their awesome bromance. Then mama dawn claims that she’s Kail’s mom since Kail doesn’t really have one. Idk tho this last time they didn’t really post as many pics or act as buddy buddy as they usually do. I wonder if something happened.

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        Oh wow, interesting about the most recent New York trip! Maybe Kail isn’t feelin’ the new doped out leah

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        ahaha Mama Dawn as Kail’s mom. Yeah I remember them being extra buddy buddy for a while. It died down.

        Probably around when Leah and Jeremy got busy with “other” stuff.

        Guys randomly I had to rewatch the fight scene. Leah chomping on that candy and her dialogue with Jeremy was plain not normal. He said it looked like “sex hair” and then if you notice she does this weird laugh (very uncharacteristic of her). Then he (looking SUPER out of it) does this weird squinty eye junkie look at her (his eyes aren’t on the road). They looked really messed up, seriously. even the flow of the convo..they go from that to “I THINK I’M REALLY GONNA TALK TO COREY THIS TIME” and Jeremy’s reply is “I….. think… it’s.. time” and she does that weird hand gesture like a clap but she’s also half-laughing. I didn’t realize how weird it all was the first time I saw it. At first when you guys used to talk about Leah being on drugs I thought you were joking (I mean a few weeks back, not the more recent episodes). But my goodness, these two seem out of it. What other explanation is there?

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        Alien abduction- body snatchers. It’s Corey’s fault because he didn’t call NASA enough to fix it!

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        Ya can’t just call, leave it for a month without callin’ again. Who are those people at NASA? They’re nobodies!

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    If you haven’t watched the bonus scene on mtv.com from this episode, you NEED to. I couldn’t stop laughing. It’s Babs at her finest for sure (hence my new username)

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      I really liked that scene because it made me feel a bit better about poor Jace. 🙁

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      YES I just saw! It made me feel better too.

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        Me too! And I was really impressed by seeing Barbara hauling that big heavy wrought iron patio table into the house. She proved Gaythan wrong a million times over when he said she wasn’t physically able to take care of Jace. Any 60 year old woman that can handle that can certainly handle a 5 year old.

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      Can someone give me a summary?i can’t watch it, 🙁 thanks

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        Babs is upset that she has to set up for the baby shower by herself, but does it anyway. While she’s in the backyard getting a wrought iron table and hauling it inside by herself she remarks that Nathan is “too busy shaving his legs in the bathtub like a girl.” Jace laughs and offers to help Barbara. She praises him and tells him he’s a good boy and nice helper when he helps her push the table inside. They go inside and Barbara continues to gripe about Nathan, but says she’s not going to be upset with Jenelle, because she’s 9 months pregnant. She blames Nathan for upsetting her like that so close to her due date. Jace offers her more help and Barbara tells him “You’re my best friend!”

        Jace continues helping Babs decorate, handing her decorations to hang up. Barbara asks Jace if he likes Nathan. Jace says no and when asked why, he says he doesn’t like him because he is mean. Barbara seems dismayed, but doesn’t dwell on it. When they are finished hanging the decorations Jace exclaims “That’s cool, Mama!”

        It made me feel better for Jace. I think Barabara loses her temper a lot and doesn’t deal with him the best, but you see how the scenes of her being sweet and calm when their alone end up on the cutting room floor?

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    Jenelle: that is one fucked up dysfunctional family. I don’t get it at all. How do people deal with that much fighting and yelling in their everyday lives? Over what, a baby shower? Is it that big of a deal? Why is Nathan such an immature jackass, is that part of his “disability?” Either that or it is steroids. Good Lord. My heart literally broke into a million pieces for Jace. He has to be the most scared and confused child I’ve ever seen. He doesn’t even understand who his mother is. At the end when he was crying, Barb asks him what’s wrong. Well, what the hell do you think? His mother just ran out the door screaming and crying and his grandmother is screaming and crying. That is one hell of a stressful environment. Jace is going to be in therapy for so many reasons once he starts kindergarten, I can sense it. Don’t know if I want to watch Jenelle push out the roll next week.

    Leah: Can someone explain to me how if you are the one caring for your children M-F, aka the majority of the time, how it is ONLY Corey’s fault that Ali is missing therapy sessions? I don’t get it. Is she only going on the weekends when she is with Corey, and Leah has no part in Ali potentially being dropped from therapy? I don’t understand this. She literally blames Corey for everything, yet she says she does everything for them and he does nothing when he “plays” with them on the weekends when he has them. Makes no sense to me. She looked rough this episode. Meth or pills I’m guessing.

    Kailyn: Javi is really pissing me off. He is taking this stepson/stepdad relationship waaay to seriously. It’s nice that he wants to be involved, but he is obviously not okay with Jo in the picture. Why is he so surprised that Jo doesn’t want to give up father’s day with his son? Kail was frustrated, but trying to come to terms with the fact that Isaac might miss family vacation, but she doesn’t want to fight with Jo over something like that and I don’t blame her. They had enough issues in the past, and probably still do, why add more fuel to the fire? Javi needs to step off and maybe focus a little more on his newborn.

    Chelsea: Still annoys the piss out of me. Speak like a normal person. You’re how old now? Taylor has her own camera crew now? That was weird. She’s trying really hard to convince the world that she’s not the stupidest person ever to get knocked up by Adumb after all that happened with Chelsea. It’s not working. However, Paislee is adorable. I’m glad Chelsea tried to reassure Aubree about her dad being flaky and possibly not showing up to T-ball. Lower her expectations as much as possible, because he is going to be letting her down for the rest of her life. Adumb’s girlfriend is rough looking. 10+ years of tanning, bleaching and God knows what else has taken a toll. I hope they’re not still together.

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      Yes their baby shower is a huge deal. How else do you think Nathan is going to get his eletronical stroller?

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      Yeah I really liked when Kail made the point to Javi “Its co-parenting” firmly and matter-of-factly. Something that him and Jeremy need to get straight in their head is the definition of compromise. Compromise means that two people don’t necessarily agree but one or more of them make concessions, they make a sacrifice, they are uncomfortable, willingly, for the greater good of another person. Its not about “Standing up for yourself.” Its not a fight, its about compromise. People have to realize that when you end up in situations like this, where you have kids with people that you aren’t in a relationship with, there will always, be disappointment, disagreement and compromise, because its not an ideal situation. It is a broken situation, and always will be.

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    The car scene. I. Just. Can’t. Those girls do not need to be with Leah

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    I guess I’m old by Chelsea’s standards- I’m 31. -_-

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    So, Jace flat out says that Barbara yelling at him does NOT scare him, but these two parents shit stains of the year, who don’t have custody of their first born children, have to butt-in like they have any clue or have any say. Obviously Babs could find a better alternative, but from what we’ve seen of Jace, he’s a little brat.

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      Also, the child support argument is bullshit. I’m sure Corey would LOVE to have more time with his girls, but he has to work for a living, so he really can’t. Unlike Leah, who doesn’t have to get a job because Corey, Jeremy and MTV are footing all of her bills. She’s constantly wanting more money from him. Greedy bitch. The last time she took him to court over it, she got her way, and “promised” it was final.

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        In the beginning, did she say addalynn is with jurrrrmy’s mom for a little bit because she’s soooo stressed? That’s literally how every episode has started out with Leah. “I’m doing this today, or I’m feeling this today so ___ is watching the girlses.”

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        It does seem that someone else has at least one of them most of the time. She has it so good. I have an 11 month old and have only been out to eat ONCE alone with my husband since he’s been born. I would LOVE to have a family member that I could drop him off with whenever I was feeling stressed out! (As does Leah)

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        Yeah and when she said “I’m taking some time off because I’m stressed out,” oh man did my head insert so many possibilities.

        -I’m taking a break from work because I’m a hazard on the road
        -my work granted me a leave of absence (or something) to deal with personal things
        -my work granted me a leave of absence to try and get my crap together and get off of drugs
        -my work fired me because of drug use or missed days
        -I never had a job in the first place, it was all for show
        -I’m just lazy

        LOL

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        I agree. I’m gonna be a bitch and blame everything on Leah again. What I think of the “he only has them one or two days” OKAY YOU BITCH. So what you are saying is that you keep them girlses to yourself whilst not realizing both Corey and the girls want more time. I bet if he could have it he would take more time but just as you claim to he cares how you feel and probably doesn’t wanna take them away. Even though you claim to care for only them in the backseat. Well girl if you really cared you would listen to what your daughters want! Idk it annoys me that it’s all he said she said but until MTV wants to make this reality television show actual reality I will be biased and hate on those I believe deserve it.

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        She thinks she has those girls all the time, but they are at school, cheer camp, her moms, jermy’s moms, at some restaurant being ignored by her, playing alone while she’s keying in bed or on tge couch or in the bathroom fixing her rats next or face, she is never playing with them reading to them, enjoying them. She’s hassled by them including that baby who seems to have red spurts on her like her loathes aren’t changed or clean often. They always look like ragamuffins. When that baby was getting ” bathed” her skin looked kind of splotchy but nit from cold. It looked like she was not looked after like age slept in dirty clothes and ill bet she does.

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        Oh man- I gotta slow down and proof read! It’s so tiny on my phone I can’t see!
        Sorry it’s a mess! I care about this shit tooooo much! I gotta get a life!

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    You’re gonna be highly pissed janelle? Or just high? Lol. Ugh. Again, poor Jace. Poor babs. I wish they didn’t get dragged through janelles shit storm. Ok I posted way too much. Oh shit next week it’s going Down! There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Leah is on something or multiple things.

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    I’m sorry, but I totally had an chick moment when Javi and Kailyn saw each other in the airport. Kail looked like rainbows were about to come out of her ass. I still think Javi is weird, but I’m glad Kail seems happy. I don’t find her asking about Father’s Day was such an issue. She asked, he said no. End of story. It doesn’t hurt to ask. Btw, good job with Isaac.

    Nothing to say about Chelsea. Same old.

    I’m not sure about the Leah/Corey issue. If Corey isn’t paying/is late on his agreed payments, then Leah has the right to be angry. She really did cut him a good deal with the $200. I’ve known child support orders to be higher than $800 with two kids. $200 is a walk in the park. I don’t care how much he is in his kids life, he has to pay child support. You laid down, pay up. I think there’s a lot MTV isn’t showing. Jeremy should be involved because he is married to Leah, but he had no right to call him a piece of shit. Not right.

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      I agree. I feel like there’s a lot more to.the story that they’re not shOwing. It went from 0 to 60 really fast. I really wish they wouldn’t cut so much out so we’d know the real situation.

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        I try not to get worked up over this show. You know they don’t show everything and can manipulate situations.

        (This does not include the deadbeat we call Jenelle. Her behaviour has no excuse. Running out like a child and peeling out of your Momma’s driveway in your nice MTV funded car isn’t okay in any situation. She about gave me an anxiety attack tonight).

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        I was wondering if maybe what happened was Corey hearing all the rumors about Leah (remember Forgotten Twin was saying it was common knowledge in their town?) and maybe confronted her about it?

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        what was common knowledge? fill us in!!

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        If you look back on the Blind Item post Megan made a few weeks back The Forgotten Twin spilled all these “rumors” and things she had heard about Leah because apparently they live near one another! Check it out! there were a lot of anecdotes

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        Sorry I meant a few days back* not weeks.

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        I think they jumped waaaay ahead – because all of a sudden leah has a haircut, and its more recent stuff. I think they’re trying to keep it relevant and not such old footage, but its resulting in a lot of skipping. And I’m afraid that the skipping are things that could…incriminate some people so they are treading lightly so they don’t put their money maker away in jail heh.

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    I’d also like to add, I don’t know if anyone else caught this (sorry if someone did and I missed your comment…we’re rapid firing tonight!) But Leah said she is so overwhelmed, so she’s taking “a break” from work…yeah. A baby head dye induced break. I hope Corey gives her a taste of her own medicine and “wears her out” in court.

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      That’s what is was. I couldn’t remember if it was that she was so stressed that someone was watching Addie, or that she was so stressed she was taking a break from work. Must be nice to have your baby daddy pay more for child support for the girlses, yet you can just “take a break” when life gets hard. And her saying she doesn’t care if his car or house gets repossessed. Where do you expect the girlses to live then? She’s such a dumb bitch I hope Corey rocks her ass in court.

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      I hope he wears her out to the point she goes bald. I really can’t wait till Jurmy is in the exact same boat paying Leah a ridiculous amount and even alimony!

      Robbie you seriously dodged a bullet every night you messed with meth head!

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        Because some guys have to pay their ex old ladies$1000! Seriously, it would serve him right.

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        If Corey get full custody ( best case scenario- but back wood courts favor meth head stay at home moms with special child to sweet working dads) and has them during the week and Leah has them on weekends or far less than she does- wouldn’t he be able to ( he wouldn’t) sue her with Jermy’s riches for support? They make more than he does and he’d be custodial parent. It’d be hard to justify Leah not trying to work too if Corey and Miranda were doing the bulk ( maybe why Miranda lift her job) of the appointments for Ali. I know it will come down to Leah crying and lying and who can afford the better attorney and hope MTV doesn’t get involved and give Leah any money or advice or help. Corey and Miranda cannot be worse than Leah and Jermy no matter what is being edited out. Leah is on drugs and the girls are neglected- Corey loves those girls and they feel safe with him. Jermy doesn’t connect to them. Miranda adores them.

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        It would be the greatest thing ever if Leah had to work some crappy minimum wage job and pay child support. And Miranda can be the stay at home mom, and we can all live happily ever after.

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        I can’t wait til Leah has to pay child support to Corey because he has custody! That will be awesome, esp when the teen mom 2 money is gone!

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      How do these girls keep finding jobs that just let them take breaks at a moments notice when they get stressed out with sitting on their asses all day?

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        well they work at tanning salons lol i mean no offense but its not a promising career, plus she “sells” marykay lol

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        Um..she’s probably taking a “break” from the tanning salon because she probably got fired for coming to work fucked up as a can of worms.

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        Does she even work at the tanning salon anymore? We saw her one time at work and it was the same day she had that trippy phone call. The only other time she mentioned work was when she said Jeff was taking Allie to her appointment but then she was wearing the same clothes and didn’t seem like she had been at work at all.

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        MTV cameras are free advertising and high school kids in town all go see them. How in the world would Catelynn work in a boutique with her off the shoulder tops and hooker nails and braces with rubber bands if she didn’t get that set up? Or a beauty supply store hired Amber with her self cut self dyed Cleopatra hair to take appointments and sell product? I don’t know about you, but if they were the staff, I’d not frequent the store, but as a Teen Mom Junkie- I’d lurk.

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      So she’s taking a break from selling the Mary Kay she’s yet to sell?
      Lol

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      If I’m not mistaken the “Mom” haircut was first unveiled to the world about three weeks after Leah began “cosmology school” (as she called it). And we haven’t heard ANYTHING about her hair school adventures in the meantime which leads me to believe she is taken an extended leave of absence or flat-out dropped out. I’m thinking that is what she was referring to. I guess she won’t be writing that book all about her cosmology school experiences, what a daggone shame and a major blow to the literary world.

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    Btw, I didn’t even know who Taylor was when they showed her “segment”. Who the fuckkk?

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    So if it is true that Corey is only giving Leah $200 a month it is starting to make sense now that we know the days they each get the girlses. If Corey gets them Friday through Monday and Leah gets them Monday night? Through Thursday then technically they have them for the same amount of time, Leah maybe having them a little longer. For Leah having the girlses for an extra half day, $50 a week sounds more than reasonable for that extra half day. How does it work when parents have the children the same amount of time? I would think that neither should pay child support, and just split the cost of things like school supplies, etc.

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    Just thought of something else. Leah claims that Corey has never taken Ali to therapy. But their custody agreement has him with them on Friday to Monday. I am thinking it’s probably Friday evening until early morning Monday. My son has been in therapy for over 3 1/2 years. He’s never been on the weekend. How the hell is Corey supposed to take her when he doesn’t even have them during the week? And I think it’s pretty clear that he only gets them on the weekends. God leah is an idiot.

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      THIS. Also, she said Ali has been in therapy her whole life. Not quite accurate, but for rounding purposes I’ll accept it. HOWEVER, this therapy program she’s been in has started very recently. It used to be the therapist would come to Leah’s house during the day. Corey wasn’t there because 1. he was at work and 2. it wasn’t his house. It hardly counts as “taking” your kid to therapy when the therapist comes to you.

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        THe at home therapy usually lasts until their 3rd birthday. If it is provided through the state. I am in TX but I know that most state therapies go until age 3 because then they qualify for public school special education classes, which is what Ali started in earlier in the season.

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      Exactly what I found myself wondering tonight. She knows it’s her fault that Ali’s missing therapy and was pissed that she got called out in front of Jeremy and Miranda. I’m pretty sure Corey rendered her speechless after that. That’s probably why she nags Corey so much about the will-chair, to take attention away from the fact that she is neglecting her responsibilities for Ali.

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      Hi! I’m a therapist who used to work in pediatrics. Early intervention programs are provided by the state from birth-3 years. This is where the OTs and PTs will come to the house. After that children tend to enter a preschool program (which the therapists come to the preschool) to hold them over until they officially enter the school system (where the therapists see them during school hours). Now there are outpatient centers of course where parents can bring their children to a clinic but in this case I believe Corey is referring to therapeutic riding that they would have to take Ali to the stable where the therapists were.

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    I think Leah had “sex hair” because she and Jeremy just got done fucking in the back of that Scion on the way to get the girlses. Finally thanking him for that Keurig I suppose. Has anyone ever seen Leah or the girlses eat a vegetable, or something not out of a bag or loaded with sugar?

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    Also note how Jenelle has been completely silent on twitter, and Leah is only re-tweeting people who comment they like her hair (probably because there is nothing else positive to say about her in this episode – and calling her hair positive is a stretch).

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    Ugh I’m trying to go to he’d and I’m so sad thinking about Jace. I literally want to wake my twin boys up and just hold them, rock in a chair with me and tell them how much I love him. Also makes me not want to dwell on small stuff with my fiancé. I don’t want them to grow up with us apart or with us together hating each other. We don’t fight at ALL like jenelle and Nathan and never in front of my boys (they turned 2 today!!!! Can’t believe it!). I just have an ache in my heart for Jace. That poor, poor Lil guy. I said I didn’t want any more kids but I would take him in! He can come live in Cali with me!!!

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    Another thing I wanted to add, Kail went on and on about how much Isaac loves the beach and how he’s missing a week at the beach. Um, girlfriend, Jo lives in New Jersey. Why do you think people come here? He’s in Newark, so about an hour away from decent beaches and 2-3 from really nice ones. Not the Bahamas, but does a 4 year old really care?

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    This show is becoming almost unbearable to watch any more. Leah get off the damn drugs. She is definatly on something no doubt. Ooo and at Corey’s they get to eat real food like hamburgers and hot dogs which is a huge improvement from the this isn’t food lunchables. And jenelle… Same old. Just up and leaves her kid with out saying good bye just like wen the poor boy was a baby. Babs may not be perfect but she obviously loves jace. I think she is over whelmed by jenelles shit. Sure before she was a danger to herself but now she is preg and I honestly think that babs can tell what a real animal Nathan is and is genuinely concerned in a totally different way for jenelle. Jenelle really screwed herself with this loser but this is her karma IMO for all the other guys she dated before that allegedly “abused” her.

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    I think Chelsea should really take a page out of Jo’s book on how to act around your partner’s new kid. I get it, it’s not an ideal situation. But your daughter has a sister – one of the most precious relationships in life, you should really make the most of that. Suck up your own issues and don’t take them out on an infant.

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    Did anyone else see that Javi tweeted that it’s “Big Papi Wednesday?” It’s so obvious that he comes here. I’m going to throw up now…

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    How is Leah such an idiot? Does she not understand that you’re talking with Joe Schmo at a call center when you call your insurance, and not the doctors on the board that decide IF (not when) she’ll get a wheelchair! And the reason Corey doesn’t take them to appts is cuz he only gets them on the weekends and she doesn’t have therapy then!!! Duh 2+2!!! She’s a lunatic.

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    Didn’t it seem odd that no one talked with each other at Aubree’s t-ball game? Chelsea and her group just stood there and kept sneaking glances and Adumb & his cougar gf just stood there as well. You’d think someone at least would’ve said hello! Awkward!!

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    Wow. I feel so sad for jace. What a shitty environment to grow up in. No matter where he is,
    Everyone is always screaming and angry. And they wonder why he has behavioral issues at school. Him signing in the car while jenelle is sitting there crying over douche bag
    Sleeveless electronical Nathan was depressing. He’s a sweet boy and I wish he would have been adopted by his own brandonandtheresa.

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      Oh and leah was definitely on something in the beginning of the episode when she and Jerms were laying in the bed. Her eyes were all sorts of fucked up.

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      yeah thats what i was thinking, then she didnt give him no type uplift when he singing, obviously hurt by the situation. No how hurt i am if my kids see me crying i always give them hugs so they can know im alright. Nathan is a sicko. That whole relationship is crazy

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    Leah removed her facebook fanpage because of all the hate shes receiving lmaoooo

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    Jenelle give your son a hug for gods sake, hes reaching out to you, and i think nathan scares him, and babs is just frusturated.
    Kaitlyn im glad your growing up a lil, jo’s his dad he should be with him on fathers, javi is an a..hole.
    Lea sure does look like she smoking something but corey is an excellent father and your just being money hungry, um jeremy is also an ahole,
    Chelsea please stop with whiny baby voice its so annoying it makes me want fast forward, adam still has some growing up to do hes like 27, and she just wants him back, she shouldnt care who he brings as long as he there for his daughter. Thats all she talks about is adam adam adam. She needs to find her a man maybe she wouldnt have time to worry about who hes with. Shes the most annoying out of everybody to me.

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    How shitty of Jenelle to ignore Jace singing, offering to help her, and overall being sweet but the minute he calls Babs his mom, she speaks up. What a piece of shit.
    I think when jenelle isn’t around, he probably calls Babs Mom. I don’t think it was a slip up on his part. Sometimes my son calls me dad by accident or my husband mom and he immediately realizes what he said and corrects himself.

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    When roid rager gaythan was talking about them getting custody, saying they’d have no problem getting it. What the fuck, Leah must be sharing her meth with him . Dude, you have at least 3 dui’s, one supposedly while your daughter, who you don’t have custody of, was in the car. Jenelle has been arrested how many times? In what world does he think a judge would say, oh you guys definitely should have full custody. Get the fuck outta herewith that. I can’t wait until they break up. It’s obvious Jace is scared of him, and Jenelle doesn’t care to see that.

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    Lance Bass calling Corey a piece of shit royally pissed me off

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    I guess Karl was love tweeting during the show and seriously mostly all of her tweets are about how Isaac not going on the trip wasn’t a big deal, but then right after that she’s saying Jo could have celebrated any day. Just when you think she’sbeing mature she always has ulterior motives aand contradicts herself. She also said something like “no Vee, it wouldn’t be a big deal if I didn’t have him in mothers day.” are they not getting along anymore? And yeah right Karl, we all know you’d throw a bitch fit.

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      Oh she’s SUCh a fucking hypocrite. I can’t wait till mother’s day. I hope Jo takes him on Mother’s Day to see how it feels, but he wouldn’t even do that. I was happy they gave each other high five then she had to fuck it up. Not to mention Javi puts shit in her head he’s so fucking immature. I want someone to ask Javi how he’d feel if someone took Lincoln on Father’s Day. Assholes…

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        He probably wouldn’t give a shit. Just don’t take the kid that’s not his… Issac is his pretend child…. he wants him more. You can take Lincoln all day and he wouldn’t care. Hell I’LL freaking take Lincoln and his adorable little bear suit!

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        Ha I was gonna say the same thing! He cares if Isaac is taken. He doesn’t give a toss if Lincoln is there or not.

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        Isaac is responsive and can idolize him. Lincoln is a needy baby who needs his diapers changed and is basically a squishy blob who sleeps, peeps and poops and cries and Kail feeds him with her wonder boobies. With Linvoln he can feel smart, strong, powerful and respected because a 4 1/2 year old listens to him and asks him to play with him and thinks he’s cool when he sits on the floor and plays trucks or gives him his Mac & Cheese on a special plate. Kail is super strict and he can be the cool parent. It’s all about his very weak immature ego. He feels manly around the kid.

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      Maybe it’s your autocorrect that makes “Kail” turn into “Karl,” but I still think it’s entirely appropriate. Masculine tattoos, hulking, linebacker physique. Yeah. Karl.

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    I’m glad to see Chelsea and her friends taking bets on when Adumb’s new girl will be pregnant. That seems like a positive step and that she’s grasped finally what Adumb is all about.

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      That was hilarious…that was the only thign I really liked in this episode and the t-ball. I’m glad Chelsea is there to always make us laugh cause the rest of the show can be so infuriating…

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        Me too. I love Chelsea, she’s fucking hilarious. And, man, I gotta say, WOOF! Adumb’s cougar mamma was looking exceptionally rough this week. She’s got the face of an OLD lady, especially around the mouth. Too much of the D in there I guess.

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        Me too. But she cops so much hate for being “boring” How is being “normal” boring. I love that she’s on. She’s frigging hilarious and she shows the opposite to those train wrecks. So she’s not great at discipline. The girl had a baby at 17. Seriously. Cut her some slack. She will find her feet there I reckon.

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    This show is so fucking heartbreaking sometimes. I feel so bad for Jace…he’s trying to get a hug from “mom” AKA babs while she’s yelling at Nathan, no one is hugging him. He’s trying to be sweet while Jenelle cries over her ugly boyfriend, and nobody pays him any attention. And then they call him mean….the kid is being so nice and never gets praised for it. I hate watching these shows when I see the damage being done. It’s different from when they are babies of course but now they know wtf is going on. My God and Leah cussing up a storm with jeremy, so lovely. I’m sure she talks poorly DIRECTLY to the girlses about their father. Lol I loved when Aleeah asked Can we go with our dad? you psycho bitch. OH and she’s SO on meth….tired my ass. One of her eyeballs was half closed and she chewed like a fucking cow. She just disgusts me lately. I hope Corey got custody. Aubree’s tball was super cute, lol at Adam’s whorebag texting the whole time. Omg did anyone else roll their eyes at Taylor? We don’t need your segments…. no one fucking feels bad for you. At least she admitted she was stupid for choosing him, haha so she’s venting about seeing her child with another woman then next week takes selfies with Aubree? I think she’s trying to reach out to Chelsea and Chelsea wants no part. I knwo most people are like ohhh she should get along because it’s Aubree’s sister, but really it’s fucking Adam’s fault. Chelsea will have to get along with 5 baby’s mothers if that’s a the case.

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      I don’t think Chelsea and Taylor need to be friends, but they need to “co-parent” in a sense that they should allow Aubree and Paisley to have a relationship with one another without it being hostile. Even just drop one off at the others house one day for a playdate and not have to interact with the other, that sort of thing.

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        Yeah….I think it’s cause taylor wants to be friends and Chelsea is just like FUCK OFF I don’t blame her. It’s such bullshit that Chelsea has to get along with these random girls because Adam can’t keep it in his pants. It’s not paisless fault and she shouldn’t pay for it but my God, Adam needs to be sterilized.

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        I agree. It’s not Chelsea’s or Taylor’s responsibility to make sure they have a relationship. It’s Adumbs. And if he can’t well then I would wait till the girls are old enough to choose for themselves. They could have siblings all over South Dakota. I grew up similarly in that my sperm doner, donated regularly and has a few kids to different women and I don’t see them. Nor do I see the sperm doner. And I’m not phased. I don’t resent my mum for not forcing relationships. It’s the douchbag dad who’s at fault.

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        I know how chelsea feels, taylor was on her high horse acting like she’s a great stepmom and all, now adumb is bringing a pornstar around Paislee and Taylor feels wierd. Ugh Taylor…stop trying to be Chelsea’s friend, we know you used to say bad things about her.

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        Now Taylor is bitching to her hairstylist (it’s so annoying, but they probably both got paid for that) that this (new) bitch is not a stepmom.

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        Yeah, I don’t think they have to be friends, and now that Adam isn’t with Taylor anymore, I don’t think they even need to maintain a the sibling relationship between Aubree and Paislee.

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    nooo i can’t watch this until tomorrow evening because mtv hasn’t uploaded yet on the canadian site! 🙁

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    Ughhh don’t look at Leah’s fanpage if you value your sanity. They was her usual “I’m so BLESSED4myFANNNN #AAAsisterssss #mtv #childsupport #methpipe #bowdown” garbage

    And the top comment, I shit you not, was one of her minions calling Corey a butt face. I.can’t. I really hope he got full custody, but I think they favor towards the moms in West Virginia. One comment stated “it doesn’t matter what she does, babies need to be with their mommies always” Um nope, not how it works.

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      Oh God that was probably mama dawn who said butt face

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      Does anyone know the chances of corey getting full custody? Really hope he does get it! Leah plays a part she is just acting, she preaches about how she takes alis stuff seriously and corey doesnt…. then why has she missed so maany aptts? She moans its always her to do it…. well yeah the apts. are during the days you have the girlses and corey works during the days. She is genuinely pathetic and can’t wait for her marriage to fall apart and the ass hole that is jeremy can feel her suck child support from him leaving him dry.

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        Generally judges use to favor the mom but recently(not sure how recent) many are now saying that it should not always just be given to the mother. More and more fathers are getting custody over mom. Moms still tend to get custody a lot more often than dads but judges are more open to the claims dad has to make. If he had proof of any drug use he would probably get custody or he might even have a great case if he can get a letter from Ali’s therapy showing how many appointments Leah missed.
        But who knows with West Virginia because southern states, I believe, still favor the mother and some judges have even given druggie mom and dick of the month custody over dad.

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        I would like to know that as well. I guess it all depends on what evidence Corey has on Leah to prove that she’s an unfit parent. I’d be curious to see if he can prove how many therapy appointments Ali missed and use that against Leah. The pills/meth might be tougher to prove unless he has witnesses.

        BTW, first time poster, long time lurker. 🙂

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      All these people who think corey is a pos, but face, whatever need to be slapped in the face. He is a good father. No we don’t know everything that goes on, but see one of my posts above for an example of a true pos.

      I really hope leah doesn’t get custody. No a bio mom is not always the best option. Leah is never shown playing with her daughters but usually ignoring them, she is never shown cooking then anything, and while leah had(she changed ali to a harness and gracie to a backless for some reason) Ali in the booster seat corey still has both girls harnessed like he actually reads to see when his girls should be in boosters.
      Corey and Miranda are almost always shown playing with the girls and he cooked for them it may not be super healthy food but at least he cooks them food. Miranda is now a stay at home wife so the girls would have someone who is always there with them and could take them to appointments and drop off/pick up at school. One more thing for corey is when he and Miranda have been seen talking about Leah they try to be on the other side of the room or he is talking to Jeff while Miranda has the girls. The girls even wanted to go with Corey instead of Leah and Jeremy because of all the yelling and cursing.

      But Leah will just blow all of that off by saying its MTV editing.

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        I just watched the sneak peak of Corey and Miranda- I don’t think she could ever reach the lows that Leah has. Corey tries so hard to do what’s right. Editing or not- it’s clear which parents AND grandparents are better for those girls!
        Unfortunately, lying, crying stay at home moms in non progressive states even with drug addictions ( explained as stress and anxiety ) will still look better than a working father to the family court. It’s a matter of old systems that assume a baby is better with a meth head mom with zero integrity who will play hard ball than a stand up some what naive guy who just wants what is fair and right. It’s sad. He may end up with half a day more and double the payment.

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        well the mtv editing wasn’t what made your pupils tiny, eyes roll, and face look haggard! Even Jeremy looked like a “damn druggie”

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        I want very much hope Jeremy asked for documentation of how many therapy sessions Ali missed and random drug tests. Sedatives and antidepressants might be explained but Oxy and Meth not so much!

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    I felt sorry for so many of the kids tonight on so many different occasions 🙁 Jace shouldn’t have so much drama in his life, it is not fair at all, I do think Jenelle regrets not being a real mom to him now that she sees he doesn’t see her as his mom. I Really hope for Jaces sake that Jenelle continues to change her life for the better, she needs to step up for his sake, he is dying to love her and be loved back it is so sad to watch 🙁
    Chelsea, just try and learn from your mistake … you saw how hurt Aubree was last time he didn’t show and then you tell her he might be coming when you admit you don’t know if he is coming :/ Thats horrible and so sad for Aubree, it gets her hopes up :/ If I were in her shoes I would not tell her he was coming so when/if he shows up it will be a surprise for her and not a let down 🙁 I said last week that Taylor prob wants advice from chelsea on how to deal with adam, it isn’t an easy situation to be in and I’m glad they showed why taylor wants to talk with her, I hope cheslea apologizes for assuming it was to immaturely bitch about adam :/ These girls now have little girls who are sisters, if chelsea likes it or not, paislee is a part of aubree and they should have a relationship. I feel for Chelsea and Taylor, (they both make mstakes obviously) but I can’t imagine having to be tied to adam for life 🙁
    Leah you POS!!!!!!! I want to hit her in her face. Corey should have the girlses, yeah your moaning you took her to all her therapies? YOU DO NOTHING, Corey works all day and guess what? That is when the fucking apts. are … they need tog et a grip and realise they are not the victims there, the kids are, she claims to want the best for ali yet she isnt taking her to her apts? OBV they phoned her first before corey to remind her, so she obviously missed more apts. so corey was the last contact .. honestly miranda and corey would be best for the kids, jeremy should butt the fuck out … how is leah always the victim? When her marriage broke down, it was because corey wasn’t paying attention to his family…. not because she cheated! OH god I hope and pray corey and miranda get custody…. lets see how leah copes paying the child support… they are so greedy and self centred it is unbelieveable!!!
    Kailyn not much to say, it was quite a nice segment and refreshing to see Jo and her get on … I don’t know how she will cope 6 weeks without isaac though!

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      I don’t think jenelle regrets shit. I think all she cares about is if Gaythan loves her. Has she ever cried like that over her son? NOPE. God I know and watching Jace tug at babs and just getting ignored was awful….poor kid. Yea I was weary about Chelsea saying that too.

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        I don’t think she regrets it FOR him or because how it has affected him but i think she does regret it because she hasn’t got the title MOM with him if you see what i mean, like she regrets it for selfish reasons more than anything else.
        Yeah i just think Chelsea is trying to in a way create situations to show how adam is a bad dad and how aubree is so upset because he lets her down all the time kinda thing.
        P.s not been on the ball lately been so busy decorating our house! So happy! Just letting it but its a secure tenancy so could be here for as long as we want realy! a 3 bedroom, big garden, near the beach and a big park! It’s in a “bad area” but honestly it’s not too bad, on friday ngiht there was shouting but only reason we heard it was because the front door was open to air out the paint smell. And I actually feel quite safe there, the police pass quite a bit so you know there close if you need them ha! Theres so many kids here too, both our neighbours have kids, they seem nice enough, wont be making friends with them though … too much drama if you fall out and then stuck next door so just going to be civil with everyone 🙂 so tempting to start thinking about when to have kids but i still have my course and it doesnt finish until june 2016 so .. waiting game!

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        I know. I want to see her shed A SINGLE TEAR FOR JACE. Just one. Her relationship with Nathan is utterly destructive. How she can think this is a good relationship is utterly beyond me.

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    I was going to watch this episode tomorrow, but after reading the comments about Jace, I think I’ll skip this one. It makes me so sad, every kid should feel loved and be comforted when they are sad. I know it’s stupid, but it gets to me a lot that there’s kids out there who don’t have that, and I just want to save them all!